Let's make fun of Trump, bash him, etc. while we can!

[Classic-Xer]

(01-20-2019, 03:07 PM)David Horn Wrote:

(01-20-2019, 12:07 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote: What interest to do you think or believe that you have in all the machinery and profits associated with my business or anyone else's business? The blues are sure making a lot of important business decisions for local business owners/ local employers that are located in their urban areas these days. I mean, allowing people to work thirty hours of work for forty hours of pay is an important business decision for blues to be making for its business owners these days. I mean, doubling or tripling wages of their employees is another important business decision that blues have made for its business owners as well. I'm not sure how long they'll be able to afford doing business that way or how long they'll opt to remain in business or how long people will be able to afford to do business with them with the blues making important business decisions that increases the cost/price associated with the consumers/customers these days. I can see why stuff could get really  screwed up/messed up in some blue urban areas and some blue states within a decade or so.

You are complaining about the response to past afflictions.  It's been 45 years since the economy has shared its bounty with all.  Finally, the ability to pull that off forever has been challenged, and the current winners are livid.  Sorry, but you, among many others, benefitted from a paternalistic government, subservient to money first and foremost.  For all of that, you benefitted very little, because the big gains went to capital ... as always.  If there is no corrective, then the economy will devolve into a 21st century version of Feudalism.  That's nuts by any measure.  Oh yeah, the proof:

Classic-Xer Wrote:We aren't socialist/fascist yet and I don't see a large portion of America converting/submitting  to socialists, Communists or fascists without violence and significant amount of casualties and all kinds of pain and suffering being felt by millions upon millions of people. Blue America on the other hand seems to be getting pretty close to becoming one or the other or a lethal combination of all of them. Honestly, I don't know who is what these days. The fascist seemed to follow or subscribe to the same basic left wing ideological belief as the blues these days. I guess that's an issue for blues to sort out and determine among themselves.

We are moving toward socialism because capitalism couldn't control its own lusts.  Capital has always taken somewhat more than its share, but, starting in 1973, capital took most if not all of it.  Since 1970, productivity has more than doubled.  Wages?  They're flat.  This has been covered up by bluster, from the likes of Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter, and by "generous" credit.  Mr. Working Stiff may have been fooled for a long time, but, as Abe Lincoln said, you can't fool them all forever.  Trump's mistake was assuming that he could play on the fears of the very people who've been screwed while stealing even more.  Here's a hint: people noticed and they're pissed.

I don't work in manufacturing and I'm not a manufacturing/blue collar worker who would normally vote Democratic. I'm a professional/skilled tradesman who owns and operates a small business who would normally vote Republican. I'm not one who is/has been complaining as you say. Although, I have listened to the complaints of those who expressed concerns over the years and my solution was very similar to what Trump has been doing to change existing trade deals and addressing illegal immigration which hurts middle class workers and the working poor the most. I'm bullet proof as far as a cheap illegal coming in and replacing me or eliminating my job. I'm also pretty bullet proof as far as the global economy goes as well. Right now, my primary issues are ILLEGAL immigration and HEALTHCARE costs.

At what point did the Democrats stop voting the way Democrats should have been voting or used to vote instead of voting on behalf of the interests millionaires and billionaires (Big Business and wealthy foreign interests associated with the global economy and wealthy movie stars and the wealthy heirs of old robber barons or industrialists and voting on behalf of welfare recipients and voting in favor of more welfare programs and supporting the expansion of welfare programs.

Now, if you were able to use/apply some common sense reasoning and you were able to use or apply an objective (non partisan) view and/or take of things, you could easily determine that the two are connected to each other politically and view them as being a major Democratic problem as far as it's primary political interests are concerned. So, what happened under your nose that you weren't aware of as far as the Democratic party or left wing politics goes? I've had no interest in the Democratic party or left wing politics my entire adult life as you can see by my views and my posts. I have Democratic voters for friends ( the majority of whom are affiliated with trade unions or affiliated with a labor union or affiliated with their parents party that they haven't come to grips with the fact that it no longer shares the same values and beliefs as them). 

I'm not a avid fan of Rush Limbaugh or Ann Coulter or Tucker Carlson or Sean Hannity or any of the major conservative talk show hosts these days. Although, I would most likely agree with most of their views pertaining to the liberals (blues)/ the majority of the Democratic party these days. The Democratic voters are going to have a choice/ decision to make now or in the not so distant future relating to their future and the future of their children. The American right has already decided which direction it's going and the direction that it's chosen isn't in the direction socialism, fascism or Communism. As I've mentioned before, the blues have issues they better figure out ways to resolve among themselves pretty quick or they're going to learn first hand what it was like when left wing utopian societies like those of Nazi's, Bolshevik's and so forth came crashing down around them. So, as you see, I share your view as far as the end result. Hint: If our wages (Republican/conservative/classical liberal voters) were flat, you'd have more support from those on the American right these days.