04-20-2019, 12:06 PM
(This post was last modified: 04-20-2019, 07:26 PM by Eric the Green.)
(04-20-2019, 01:37 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote:(04-19-2019, 03:24 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:I'm not dependent upon a wealthy person. I don't know a Republican voter who is dependent on or is at all interested in becoming dependent upon a wealthy person or wealthier people in general. Sanders pulled the pulled the Democratic party to the left. I suspect that you're mainly seeing small donors these days as a result. The Republicans are only scared of large scale financial destruction. We've been through many small scale financial disruptions and there is no reason to be scared about them.(04-18-2019, 01:00 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:(04-17-2019, 01:05 PM)Tim Randal Walker Wrote: A democrat might gain an advantage by promising to wage trade wars more consistently and more ruthlessly than Trump.I doubt that will happen. The Democrats are reliant upon tax dollars and millions in campaign contributions and political funding from all kinds of wealthy people and the idea of causing financial disruption and hardship related to them scares the crap out of most Democrat's these days.
You got that reversed. It's well known Republicans are dependent on the wealthy people. Democrats get funds mostly from small donors now. Sanders set the trend. And tax dollars don't go to political campaigns yet. The Republicans are scared to death of financial disruption. That's why they oppose measures for fairer taxation, action on climate change, reforms to reduce power of corporations and billionaires, etc. Republicans fear that the trickle down will stop flowing, making the natives restless.
Here's an example where communication is difficult. In this case I could have been clearer about what I was referring to, although I guess I thought that was understood. Here I was referring to Republican politicians, since Classic Xer was discussing campaigns and tax dollars given to candidates and politicians. But he replies that he and other Republican voters he knows are not dependent on wealthy people. That doesn't change the fact that Republican politicians are more dependent on wealthy donors than Democratic ones are. And that's because Republican politicians serve the interests of the wealthy. That's their purpose and their policy.
Sanders was practicing what he preached: that candidates should not be dependent on wealthy donors, and he did well enough that this way of raising money is now being practiced by more Democrats who want the votes of those who don't think wealthy donors should run our politics.
I agree Republicans and people in general are more scared of large scale financial destruction than small scale ones. It is true however that small ones also do affect elections. And the large disruptions, such as the Great Depression and Great Recession, are usually caused by Republican and Democrat-lite trickle-down economics policies, historically speaking. The economic cycle in general may also hinge on many various factors besides that, however.