04-22-2019, 07:18 PM
(04-22-2019, 05:52 PM)taramarie Wrote:Why? I think 3,000 deaths and thousands more injured within a few hours should be enough of a reminder for anyone who was old enough to witness the 9/11 attack and automatically understand why that area of the world would still be our primary focus today. You're government has no say over our gun rights. So, my gun rights weren't affected by the decisions of your lawmakers. I'm not a fan of slaughtering innocent people. I have no idea what goes on in the minds of mass murders either.(04-22-2019, 11:52 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote:No, his motive was to eliminate Muslims. He literally went tearing around in a car targeting mosques all around Christchurch. He shot up one then moved onto the one in my region of the city. Killed people there, and was on his way to a third mosque before the cops rammed his car and arrested him. Well I have no idea about what the libs are doing regarding a legal citizen shooting up a whole group of people but yes it certainly happens and was the case here in Christchurch. I also am well aware that shooters do not necessarily have to be located in that region but can be all sorts of colours, religions or no religion. Insanity and radicalism has no defined location in the world. Its everywhere. So, I would be interested in the why exactly that location when its a fact it can come from anyone anywhere in the world and does in fact happen even in your country from people who were born and raised American. I am quite interested what your thoughts are. What we can agree on is that we do not want this sort of thing happening. I am sure you do not want the shootings to continue. The only disagreement is how to minimalize the problem. Our government has actually not stopped your right of owning a gun for defence. It is only applied to certain types of guns. We still can purchase guns and we have more sensible laws around owning a gun now.(04-21-2019, 09:16 PM)taramarie Wrote: What happened in my country was a legal visitor from Australia who entered my country legally who got hold of guns from a place called Gun City. Three of the guns anyway. He was able to modify them all under our laws that allowed him to do this. A man who had done no earlier crimes at all who had been raised in Australia which has a reputation of being racist culturally and politically which clearly had some impact on him to which he agreed and aligned with white supremacy groups and individuals he believes represent the rise of white supremacy. He managed to get hold of these guns here in NZ legally and shoot up those he despises which are Muslims who by the way are here legally. They are legal and have families here. Some who were shot were wee children. This is what happened. He has written much of what I just told you in his manifesto and this is going by facts of what happened here. What needed to happen was tighter regulation on certain guns being allowed to the public which has in fact now happened thankfully as he was able to massacre so many more people in such a short amount of time due to the nature of the guns allowed to him. What we cannot monitor though are people like that who have no background on crime whatsoever but its also beneficial to do a full psychological test on each person who wants a gun just to at least attempt to prevent something like that happening ever again.So, the horrific action of a foreigner that your government allowed to enter your country was basically used to eliminate a right of all citizens of New Zealand. The radical Islamic's who attacked us and killed three thousand of us some of whom were wee wee children entered the country legally too. A fact that our liberal groups, liberal politicians, liberal judges opposed to Trump flat out ignored and refused to take into account during their opposition to a recent travel ban that was imposed on travelers and refuges coming in from certain countries located in the Middle East.
A Republican government that was American based wouldn't have eliminated your right to purchase a firearm that could be used by you for your own defense or the defense of others because a foreigner took advantage of your gun laws that didn't restrict newly or recently arrived foreigners from purchasing them legally.