(01-19-2020, 07:07 PM)John J. Xenakis Wrote: By the way, Bill Clinton was a good friend with Jeffrey Epstein, and
there are investigations today whether Clinton raped children provided
by Epstein. Given Clinton's character, and given the willingness of
the loony left to excuse rape of any kind by a Democrat, the charges
are plausible.
And no, you don't have to pimp girls to get them raped. You just have
to excuse Democrats who rape, and trash girls who accuse Democrats of
rape, which is what's going on.
Someone who pimps girls to a rapist is as culpable as the rapist. Such a person is a knowing accessory -- and usually a serial offender.
It is hard to accept that a prominent person who sexually abuses women or girls (this is strictly a distinction of age). Libel and slander are severe risks to anyone who exposes a renowned miscreant, and a lawsuit for exposing poorly-attested crimes can get a new career for a journalist... maybe as a retail sales clerk. Wealthy people have good cover and means of buying silence and can buy excellent attorneys and hire PR firms.
Quote:(01-19-2020, 04:21 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: > How did you get the idea that I support political violence of any
> kind, let alone murder for any political cause?
Because you, like Alec Baldwin, trash all 63 million Tea Partiers /
Trump supporters by using exactly the same excuses that Hitler used to
justify the Holocaust, and the same excuses that are used by other
perpetrators of genocide and ethnic cleansing. These kinds of excuses
are as old as time.
It's one thing to criticize the policies and politics of the
president, but your trashing and condemnation of 63 million Trump
supporters, almost all of whom are perfectly wonderful loving
Church-going family men, women and children, probably a lot more
wonderful than you are, is completely out of line, and should cause
you to go offline for a few days and spend the time thinking about
your values -- both about the Trump supporters, and about your excuses
for Clinton's violent rapes.
I trash Tea Party politics because I recognize such politics for enabling vices of people very different from them -- rich and powerful people who insist upon the selfless generosity of others toward people of consummate selfishness, kindness toward people of economic and political sadism, and deference toward the haughty. In a healthy social order, reciprocity is the normal expectation. it is futile to serve exploiters with any expectation of a good life or to express love toward people incapable of showing love. Tea Party types are naive about the reality of an increasingly-plutocratic social order, as they are naive about much else. Among white people (and the Tea Party is almost lily-white) these are the people whose sons and daughters are most likely to end up returning in body bags from some hare-brained War for Profits. They are the last people, aside from the perpetrators of the mirror-image Marxism of our most rapacious plutocrats and executives, to see the economic trend.
Quote:(01-19-2020, 04:21 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: > Poverty in a culture that honors only the power, indulgence, and
> gain of economic elites is a nightmare.
Yeah, I agree. That's why life was hell for poor people, especially
blacks and other minorities, during the Obama administration.
Fortunately for everyone, the economy under Trump is growing, and the
unemployment rates, especially for blacks and minorities, are the
lowest in history. So the size of the nightmare has been shrinking
under Trump, for which everyone can be grateful.
Real wages have been falling for about forty years under both Democratic and Republican Presidents; personal savings have largely disappeared among working people; personal debt has soared even though people are not more reckless spenders; executive compensation has become a big chunk of the economy. Meanwhile the super-rich have largely bought the political process, and if one is a bit cynical that class is clever enough to ensure that it loses a few political seasons to maintain the semblance of popular influence on politics. If there is more work it is being paid less... and don't give credit to Trump for what minorities have done (like accepting low-wage service jobs in the suburbs as commuters, getting more formal education, and eschewing drugs) without his prompting.
Elite power, elite indulgence, and elite gain have become the cornerstones of American economic life.
Other times such as this have ended in financial panics that lead to severe recessions, if not depressions.
Working harder and longer for less so that a few can enhance their sybaritic lifestyles is a raw deal. Note well: Donald Trump is a hideous rogue, a man who makes others lie and cheat to make him look good.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.