02-14-2020, 07:31 PM
(02-11-2020, 12:52 AM)Eric the Green Wrote:Fascism is just another progressive version of the use of big government to gain control over it's population. I guess Antifa is whatever it claims be to you right now. Are you still a fascist pig hater?(02-10-2020, 05:40 PM)John J. Xenakis Wrote: ** 10-Feb-2020 World View: Antifa Fascism
(02-10-2020, 05:21 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: > I didn't say I agree with antifa attacking their opponents.
> Antifa is not fascist, because fascism is what they are opposed
> to. Fascism is an ideology, more than just a kind of tactic.
Well, I'm glad that you don't agree with Antifa's violent Fascist
tactics.
But you've still defined Antifa as a violent Fascist organization.
There's no conflict between someone having an "anti-fascist" ideology,
and also being Fascist. You can be fascist and anti-fascist. There's
no conflict there.
Anyone can claim any "ideology" it wants, but in terms of actual
behavior, Antifa is a violent Fascist organization, according to your
own definition. I don't know why you would disagree with that. That
Antifa is a Fascist organization is really pretty obvious.
No, fascism is an ideology based on race hatred and super-patriotism.
I disagree, because tactics don't define a political organization, only its tactics. And antifa has no ambitions of taking over power and ruling by violence. It is only there to resist the fascists. Antifa means anti-fascist.
Even if antifa had political ambitions, not all violent, authoritarian or totalitarian governments are fascist. Some are communist. Some are just thugs, usually installed by coups. Some are just thuggish kleptocracies, as is common in Africa and now ruling Venezuela.
Trump is violent and authoritarian too. He considers himself above the law, and stokes hatred of various groups. Hate crimes rise wherever he speaks. Yet you support him, and he is arguably fascist. Antifa resists Trump because Trump is a fascist.