08-13-2016, 05:27 PM
(This post was last modified: 08-14-2016, 08:09 AM by Bob Butler 54.)
(08-13-2016, 02:32 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote: Trump is playing to working class folks who are really angry with the Democrats and the policies that they obviously support. What does your party become once it has lost its place with the vast majority of American workers? I see the obvious signs of a banana republic. Good luck with that as we enter the crisis era.
You are still betting on linear history, buying into the Reagan memes. Because smaller taxes and supply side trickle down voodoo were plausible in Reagan's time doesn't mean they are working well today. Bush 41 lost to "it's the economy stupid" as trickle down voodoo was tired and not working even then. Bush 43 triggered the greatest collapse since the Great Depression by pushing trickle down voodoo well beyond its place in the cycles.
But you are not alone. A whole bunch of people are still betting on unravelling trickle down voodoo, refusing to buy into crisis "work together for the common good". Not only are a lot of people rejecting Democratic working together for the common good, they are rejecting the Republican Establishment to go with Trump. The GOP main liners seemingly did not follow the Reagan memes with enough fervor and partisanship for the die hard unravellers. They demand that the old ways be driven far beyond reason.
I'm not going to convince you, obviously. I've made this point a bunch of times to no effect. You've bought into the unravelling way of thinking and seem determined to unravel America into an abyss. It takes a rather large and obvious disaster to make people reevaluate their values. The end of Bush 43's time in office with its twin military and economic catastrophes seems not to have been sufficient disasters.
They were quite a large enough disasters for me, thank you.
I do have faith, however, that the The Donald, given the chance, could create a large enough disaster to make even Republicans think.
But I don't think that likely. The Donald is doing a wonderful job thus far of losing the election. Normally I don't like Hitler comparisons, but, sure, why not one more? Hitler helped lose the war for Germany by over riding his professional military people and trying to make military decisions himself. The Donald is similarly ignoring the political professionals who perhaps ought to be on his side. Narcissism and egotism will do that to you.
After that, it's a question of whether Hillary can make working together for the common good work, or can the Republican obstructionists somehow make sure it doesn't work without taking the blame themselves.
In the end, it does matter which ideology is correct for the times. If one is stuck on one ideology, one is occasionally going to be on the wrong side of history for a decade or three. That's the way I read it, anyway. The Bush dynasty crashed the country twice. This was enough that they weren't given a third chance. In four or eight years they'll be even more out of season.
Not that you'll be able to see it. You seem to be stuck back in the 80s.
That this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom, and that government of the people, by the people, for the people shall not perish from the earth.