08-24-2016, 11:29 PM
(08-24-2016, 09:16 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: Science does not have values. It has rules of procedure.
I would quibble with this. I'll throw up the value 'integrity'. This is hardly unique to science. It should and can be part of many diverse systems of values. A good scientists ought to have integrity. Of course maintaining intense integrity so that one's observations of the world remain true and objective does rather quash most other values.
(08-24-2016, 09:16 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: Simply attaching the word science to an intellectual effort (as in "Christian Science", "creation science", or "scientific socialism") does not make something science. The use of impressive gadgetry (as with the infamous auditing devices of $cientology) does not create science.
I've absolutely no quibble with that paragraph.
(08-24-2016, 09:16 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: We need science. We also need morals. The most reliable morals depend upon empathy -- and not upon some revelations of some people barely out of the hunter-gatherer stage of economic and social development. We need return to education that inculcates some ethical values in the people most likely to become powerful -- our political, economic, administrative, military, cultural, and educational leadership. We need people who will contemplate the harm that despotic choices in the name of economic gain for an elite can do.
A very mild quibble. There is a not so subtle differences between educating folk about morality and indoctrinating them. Ao long as this distinction is kept in mind, sure.
That this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom, and that government of the people, by the people, for the people shall not perish from the earth.