09-07-2016, 01:39 AM
(This post was last modified: 09-07-2016, 01:58 AM by Eric the Green.)
(09-07-2016, 12:37 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:(09-07-2016, 12:21 AM)Eric the Green Wrote: I leave you alone a lot, but at other times I can resist baiting you. It's easy. All I have to do is speak the truth, and the venom and nonsense come pouring out. "Give 'em hell" Eric!
You realize there is a partisan symmetry to this? All someone centered on a red perspective has to do is speak what they perceive of as the truth, and you will respond with what they perceive of as venom? From the sidelines it's like watching a tennis match.
May the side that has the truth, win. That's my side, I say. All I can do is speak what I perceive as the truth. And it's not venom. It's just a case of, the truth will out. The arc of history is long, but it bends toward justice.
Just because there are two sides to a debate, does not mean the truth is necessarily in the middle.
Remember, for example, how John Oliver pointed out that people think that the two sides of the climate change debate are of equal weight, with the truth in the middle, just because the media presents it that way?
I reserve my venom for people like Terror-marie, who gang up on people and position themselves as correctors of behavior, but exhibit the worst possible behavior themselves, and without any humor at all (and, I add, with no forgiveness at all and grudges held forever). Well, both you and Galen do that too, to a lesser extent. But, really, my expressing venom doesn't accomplish much. My aim is to correct, discern, discover and explore ideas and policies. Attacks on people and trying to correct them personally mean less than nothing. Debating and discovering the theories and the evidence matters.
So, just claiming that I am partisan and expressing venom means nothing. The substance of what I say, and whether I am correct on the issues and facts or not, means something. So it goes for everyone here.
But as Galen pointed out, your remark is misplaced, because Galen is not on the red team, although he is right-wing in many ways. People may disagree about what's the truth, yet agree on many things nevertheless; as you and I do. There aren't clear-cut teams here.