Presidential election, 2016

[Bob Butler 54]

(11-11-2016, 10:24 PM)taramarie Wrote:

(11-11-2016, 09:56 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:

(11-11-2016, 09:06 PM)Odin Wrote:

(11-11-2016, 05:08 PM)Galen Wrote:

(11-11-2016, 02:24 PM)taramarie Wrote: Self reflection of damaging behaviour that helps with dividing people and the nation as a whole. Correcting it. Listen more and try to understand these people and find a solution together. But first and foremost how we converse with each other is number one. Shoot down labels need to stop.

The left has been demonizing white people, white men in particular, by calling them racist,sexist and anything else they could think of even when it was unwarranted.  Keep it up and you are going to have even bigger problems because the reservoirs of white guilt are not bottomless.  This is what the kiwi has been trying to warn you idiots about.

You are vastly overgeneralizing, here. The "SJW" types are only a small minority of "the left", they just happen to be extremely vocal.

I'd agree with Odin.  It's only the racisst and sexists that are being called racist and sexist.  However, the racists and sexists seem to be seeing things in "you are with us or against us" mode.  If one calls a racist a racist, they somehow perceive this as all whites being called racists.  This is just an illustration of how an extreme partisan world view can carry one entirely clear of reality.

As well as agreeing that the extreme SJW types are a small minority on the blue side, not everyone on the red side ought to be dumped in with the racists and sexists.  There is an element of stereotypical thinking, where all people on the other side are perceived of as being alike.  Thus, if somebody burns down a black church and spray paints 'Vote Trump' on the side, the blame might be assigned to all Republicans.  The entire Republican party wasn't at that church.

The extreme partisans are going to be screaming at their opposite extreme partisans, but an awful lot of folks aren't screaming and should not be being screamed at.

That would also apply to some of those folk who label too. Depends if the person really is sexist etc but as i have said it is not productive to call them that. Does not fix the issue.

Again, I sympathize, but what is the politically correct term for those who abhor political correctness?  The answer isn't to avoid speaking about the problem.  Many with blue leaning values cannot stand silent on the question of bigotry.  I'd suggest that by the problem's nature, there is not and ought not be a way to refer to bigots in a polite non insulting way.  Prove me wrong.  How would you refer to them?

Yes, there is a problem with choosing the correct language.  Do you have any constructive suggestions?

Perhaps the bigots ought to speak up.  How do you prefer to be described?  If bigots want to be treated with politically correct genteel respect, are they interested in responding in kind?