Presidential election, 2016

[Eric the Green]

(11-28-2016, 11:05 AM)David Horn Wrote:

(11-28-2016, 08:04 AM)Odin Wrote:

(11-28-2016, 07:03 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: Hmm.  Trump is now claiming to have won the popular vote, or he would have if not for voter fraud.

I'm used to politicians stretching truth during the campaign, though Trump seems to have taken it to new levels.  There has been a need for fact checkers.  As a president elect / president does he think he can govern through the same style of blatant lies he used during the campaign?  Can he be "leader of the free world" when he has utterly destroyed his credibility?

Autocratic governments from fascist to communist to Baathist tried to do it, but found it necessary to convert the media into propaganda organs to make it work.  Trump can't even control Faux.

I'm starting to become legitimately terrified of a Trump-lead Department of Justice giving a blind eye to Republican controlled states doing a shameless purge of black and Latino voters using lies like this as justification. They know demographic trends are against them so their strategy seems to be simply to make sure only white people vote.

This is the only real reason for a recount.  If there is voter fraud, I suspect the ones raising the issue more than the ones being charged.

I agree, and I suspect we have entered a new normal in which each side says the other side has rigged any close election. Our democracy is in real trouble, and I shudder at Jeff Sessions as the supposed enforcer of civil rights and voting rights. I hope we still have some courts who will uphold the constitution.