12-02-2016, 12:06 AM
(This post was last modified: 12-02-2016, 01:24 AM by Eric the Green.)
(12-01-2016, 09:33 PM)Ragnarök_62 Wrote: The 2 final choices were yucky. We got Mr. cyanide instead of MS. arsenic. I've gone into the I don't give a fuck anymore mode.
The choice was between cyanide and apple juice. We got the poison. That's reason to give a fuck. The nonsense about Hillary wouldn't matter, unless it's your excuse to not give a fuck about where we are now; in deeper doodoo than we've ever been.
Quote:They did smother it. You have to get outside of the lamestream media bubble to find the info though. The fact is I don't give a rat's ass who hacked what or how the info got leaked. I'm only concerned with the contents of the info itself.
Same old stuff; I've seen it a dozen times. It made no difference to the outcome at all. Hillary got the votes.
Quote:Sanders may or may not have won, that's true. However, the fact the DNC shot itself in it's ass matters. Corruption is corruption, period. The fact is the DNC should have behaved itself so as not to delegitimatize itself.
Woulds shoulda coulda. Yes the DNC and Hillary waged an inadequate campaign. What's new about that for Democrats?
Quote:The deed is done. I've moved on.
You can't move on. The deed has crippled the country and endangered the world.
Quote:Quote:We haven't done that yet, no. Apparently we have not done the job of realizing that Trump does not have a mandate, and that the people didn't vote for him.
I'm not sure where that line of thinking would take the US.
It's quite easy to know that. If Trump doesn't have a mandate, and everyone knows it because he lost the popular vote so badly, then he has less support for his programs, which are horrible, and so are the dufuses he's choosing to carry out his policies and advise him.
Quote:That gets back to what the rules are for that campaign.
No, not even for a moment. That's exactly where you need to move on from. You need to focus on what counts. A few emails do not contradict that fact that we have lost the chance to carry out any helpful policy for what will be a total of ten years by 2020, and have unleashed a madman and his cronies upon the USA and the world to give us nothing but trouble and a rapid train to a banana republic. And we should have been doing something about that trend. Instead we have a leader who want's to make it permanent and irreversible. That's what it gets "back to."
Quote:We almost had a ballot measure. I'm sure we'll get it on the 2018 ballot. The demographics favor that. Even Arkansas legalized medical MJ. Oklahoma did go the right way in decriminalization of petty crimes like possession. The Republicans did that 'cause if we keep on this lock 'em up and toss the key, then the prison budget puts the tax cuts at risk. There's nothing like an exploding expense to get folks' attention, man.MJ will get legalized in due time because it's a revenue source that isn't a "new tax". Da Republicans dug a really big hole here you know.
You are dreaming. Only a few blue states have ever done anything about this issue. Red states are dominated by religious and economic ideology. Demographics have made no difference at all in Oklahoma voting patterns. They still vote for the worst right-wing assholes, including the guy at the top of the ticket.
Quote:You're not a Millie. Millies and Rags can't afford to live in CA due to too high of house prices. Eric probably got his house before real estate got weirded out. I wouldn't be free 'cause I'd have to pay lots of property tax rent. [Unless I moved to Needles. ] House prices there are OK, but the climate isn't. I'd prefer something opposite of Needles, a place folks don't like because it's cold and snowy. Dunno if there's cheap houses in the Sierra Nevada area in some dinky town there.
Probably there is. They would be the red counties within blue CA. This isn't an issue about where you live though. It's an issue of coming to grips with the "American Amnesia," as a writer portrayed on PBS tonight said. Without a move back toward government involvement in the economy, our national decline will accelerate. The priorities are not soda taxes. The priorities are the larger issues of what kind of country we live in. Republicans = the oligarchy. To confuse the issue by saying the Democrats are just as bad and rig elections, misses this larger issue. The Democrats understand how to get our country back on track. Republicans want to speed up our decline. Worrying about soda taxes means you miss the train.
Quote:Dunno either. Just knew those silly things were on the budget.
It doesn't matter; they were not passed by any state authority. CA does not have soda taxes, and there's no imminent prospect for such. I'm in CA, I would have heard about it. NO, it was a ballot measure in a few cities.
Quote:That gets to an older problem. Why didn't team D engage X'ers in the 1980's? Team R did which is why team R has a lot of bench strength at the state and local level. It's sort of what labor unions did with those 2 tier wage schedules. Older members got the raises while GenX got the shaft. GenX then just blew off the labor unions as useless. Yes, bad decisions go back a long way and come back to bite you.
And that decision by Gen X was the bad decision. Yes, too many unions and Democrats in the 1980s fell for the Reagan propaganda that people didn't deserve a living wage; that they should yield to the boss's interests because the benefits would trickle down. Talk about not moving on; this speculation gets us nowhere. It doesn't matter what generation you are in. The problem is that unions went away, and R's have the back bench because the people fell for Republican propaganda. Trickle-down doesn't trickle. So the Gen Xers vote Republican because things failed because of their own decision!