Presidential election, 2016

[Eric the Green]

(12-23-2016, 06:50 PM)pbrower2a Wrote:

(12-20-2016, 07:21 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

(12-20-2016, 07:49 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:

(12-20-2016, 02:51 AM)Eric the Green Wrote: President-elect Donald J. Trump has claimed he won the electoral vote in a “landslide,” but he ranks below most presidents in the electoral vote and popular vote margins.

Somebody is confusing 'truth' and 'big lie'.  I'm not quite sure who...

What would you call it if the situation was reversed? I'd call it and see it as a landslide victory regardless of who had won the election. As I've told you before, the term Democrat and the term Republican represent  little value to me as an American voter.

We liberals would be humbled by our win and would be trying to make conservatives feel less bad about their loss. I wish I could tell you how I tried to console conservatives with the wins of my side. There would be no "Eat sh--!" talk on our part and no attempt to make people feel bad about themselves for voting 'wrong'. The campaign ends, and service to voters comes above partisan politics. We would expect conservatives to participate in the give-and-take of politics.

But there is no confusion. Republicans win the votes that mattered, and the only people who will now matter in our political order will be those who believe that no human suffering is in excess so long as they get everything that they can possibly get by command against people who can do nothing to stop them. By the  time that Donald Trump is through, America will be a wreck, the sort of place that has no immigration problem because it is no longer a country that people want to go to.


I expect to hate life. If I were thirty years younger I would emigrate. If Social Security and Medicare should disappear then I might as well take a Valium and vodka.

I expect to continue to love life, and thank the Lord I live in California.

But it is very disappointing to have to go back over to opposition to the US government yet again, as I have been so often in my adult life. 8 long years of Dubya, and 12 years of Reagan/Dubya Senior. And Nixon/Ford and LBJ-Vietnam before that. And even not being that happy with Bill Clinton, and only somewhat happy with Obama, and opposed to the resistance they both faced for most of their terms. Being an American with moral principle is a hard task. But we keep moving, keep hoping. Just like Atticus Finch defending Tom Robinson. And we respect heroes like Martin Luther King Jr. and Bernie Sanders. And today we have the late night comic gadflies, which I can watch on you tube or on TV, keeping the spirit alive. And hoping that Americans will someday be willing to take "a closer look." We shall overcome, someday.