Presidential election, 2016

[Eric the Green]

(01-02-2017, 09:59 AM)Warren Dew Wrote:

(01-02-2017, 03:44 AM)taramarie Wrote:

(01-01-2017, 09:57 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

(12-31-2016, 05:42 PM)taramarie Wrote:

(12-31-2016, 05:33 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote: She must make to much money to qualify for Obamacare or have an issue that requires a very expensive surgery that may or may not save her legs. It would be nice to live in a small  secluded nation that's more centered on local type issues. Lady, based on what you've told me about yourself, I've got everything you dream about/talk about having some day. You're going to have a hard time convincing someone like me that your system of preference (government controlled) is better than the system that we prefer (individually controlled). Perspective.

She is unable to work due to her condition and she has a son who has a mental disability. She is extremely poor and has a mystery ailment that needs a specialist to study what is wrong. Apparently she cannot afford it. Sir, my mother has overspent and on top of it put a caveat on the house. My situation is that i have to help pay off her debt so it is wise to get an understanding of my very individual circumstance which my mother put me in. It has nothing to do with our system and everything to do with my mothers individual greed. Sorry, but you seem to be covering yourself over with already preconceived ideas ad closing the door without knowing the full picture with regards to me. Ehem....perspective.

I knew about your situation with your mother. You've told us a lot about yourself including the situation with your mother. You've told us a lot about your country as well. I get the picture, so to speak. You given me enough of the picture to form some opinions and make some decisions. I'm a Republican voter. I've been told that Republican voters are very very rare in your part of the world.

Given you know of my particular situation judging my country on my situation is a poor judgement. Judge by what goes on for the majority, not just by my situation. Your comment, "Lady, based on what you've told me about yourself, I've got everything you dream about/talk about having some day. You're going to have a hard time convincing someone like me that your system of preference (government controlled) is better than the system that we prefer (individually controlled)." Tells me you are comparing my situation to your own individual situation. A silly comparison given we are both living different lives with a different past. If you were talking about the crap that goes on with the govt you may have a leg to stand on. But as you said, "Lady, based on what you've told me about yourself, I've got everything you dream about/talk about having some day.  You instead are comparing our lives. If you know of my situation it is silly to compare us. It is wiser to look at the wider human condition in both countries or preferably, state by state compared to NZ perhaps. Not by two people in two countries. You are not getting a wide picture that way. One thing you are right about is that Republican voters are not a thing here. Good that you are listening.

We're not hearing from the  "majority" in New Zealand, though; we're hearing from you.  Peoples' political views are to some  extent influenced by their personal situations.  For all we know, someone in New Zealand who has Classic-Xer's situation might have very different political views - or no such people may exist.

You could help by providing objective statistics when you talk about how good you think New Zealand's situation is.

The USA is the only country, besides perhaps the UK, that is strongly influenced by the trickle-down theory/free market economics/neo-liberalism. Most other countries do not fall for this nonsense. Only in the USA do we have a substantial political base for such reactionary ideologies as neo-liberalism and religious-right fundamentalism (however, the Islamic countries also have a strong base for the latter). There are virtually no Classic Xers in any country other than the USA. The USA is an exceptionally-backward country. No wonder; it was handicapped from the start by being saddled with an ancient slave-based aristocracy as half of it. Its legacy continues.