01-09-2017, 08:14 PM
(This post was last modified: 01-09-2017, 08:15 PM by Bob Butler 54.)
(01-09-2017, 07:10 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:(01-09-2017, 06:15 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:About as many names that there are for you....blue/Green/socialist/progressive/Marxist/communist economic believers...I'll need to check out Neo Liberalism and its origin to see if there's a connection with the late great FDR.(01-09-2017, 05:54 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:(01-09-2017, 08:28 AM)Odin Wrote:I'm not a Libertarian voter/Libertarian as you say.(01-09-2017, 01:27 AM)Warren Dew Wrote: Your mistake is in assuming it's all about culture for everyone, just because it happens to be so for you. In fact, most of the conservatives here are libertarian leaning, and base our reasoning not on culture but on facts and proven economic theory. Assuming that it's a clash of cultures may be why you go wrong so much.
I find it hilarious when Libertarians think they and only they have "facts" and "proven economic theory" and think all the rest of us are just going by our feels, it reeks of projection, and Libertarians tend to be exactly the kind of technically-oriented types that have little self-awareness of their own feelings and THINK they are super-logical and rational.
Classic Xer, Warren Dew, Galen; completely-typical neo-liberals/classic liberals/free marketeers/libertarian economics believers.... geez how many other names are there for what we all know what it is.........
It seems folk are ready to lump their opposition groups into one big bag, shake well, and not distinguish between very different systems. I can reasonably accept the blue, green and progressive labels. I emphatically reject the Marxist and communist labels. Those who remember my exchanges with Kinser can confirm my firm rejection of Marx's solutions. 'Socialist' seems to mean different things to different people. I favor safety nets, but not hammocks. As the word's meaning is so fuzzy, I'm reluctant to embrace the word.
As I reject communist and Classic rejects Libertarian, how many others reject some of those labels that opponents would like to stick on them?
That this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom, and that government of the people, by the people, for the people shall not perish from the earth.