The best 4T songs

[Roadbldr59]

(07-28-2016, 04:44 AM)Eric the Green Wrote:

(07-27-2016, 11:15 PM)Roadbldr59 Wrote: My 5 favorite 4T songs thus far

Vanessa Carlton - White Houses (2004)
Natasha Bedingfield - These Words  (2005)
Taylor Swift  - Our Song (2008)
Colbie Caillat - Brighter Than The Sun  (2012)
Lorde - Royals (2013)

This assumes of course that the Crisis began on 9/11/01, which I still believe. If it turns out the Crisis began in September 2008 after all, as Neil Howe insists, the list would look much different. In that case, I'm not certain I have a Top 5... music having gone steeply downhill since then.

(07-27-2016, 11:49 PM)MillsT_98 Wrote:

(07-27-2016, 11:15 PM)Roadbldr59 Wrote: My 5 favorite 4T songs thus far

Vanessa Carlton - White Houses (2004)
Natasha Bedingfield - These Words  (2005)
Taylor Swift  - Our Song (2008)
Colbie Caillat - Brighter Than The Sun  (2012)
Lorde - Royals (2013)

This assumes of course that the Crisis began on 9/11/01, which I still believe. If it turns out the Crisis began in September 2008 after all, as Neil Howe insists, the list would look much different. In that case, I'm not certain I have a Top 5... music having gone steeply downhill since then.

Music hasn't gone downhill—it has only turned into something different, something more upbeat and less dark than its 2T and 3T counterparts. As the turnings change, so does taste in music. Maybe you're too old to completely appreciate 4T music like Millennials do. Eric certainly appreciates it and he's a Boomer!

Yes indeed. And I posted a much different list, as you know; one that started in 2011. There's many different kinds of music in each turning; there's certainly lots of bad pop music in all periods. But from the critics and listener-experts I have heard, the trend is clear, that pop/rock music was more upbeat in the 2T, went downbeat in the 3T, and is maybe even more upbeat again in the 4T, which indeed started in 2008 and only then. That's just in general; but I can see the change even in Xer artists like Pharrell, who went from cheap rappings to glorious happy, and Maroon 5 who went from moves like jagger to payphone and one more night with brilliant musicianship. As the Fifth Dimension sang, our lives are looking up, even from down inside our paper cup in the gutter. That's how Glenn Miller and Duke Ellington and Count Basie and Benny Goodman and Harold Arlen & Yip Harburg and Judy Garland and Richard Rodgers lifted us up, and that's what Bieber and Owl City and Carly Rae and One Direction and Nasri Atwah and Colbie and American Authors and others are doing now.



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The one Bieber song I really like is "Love Yourself. Nothing catchy about the melody in the slightest. But I can relate to being in love with a gal who's full of herself and thinks she can do just a WEE bit better... but wants to keep me around "just in case"... and how the only way out of it wth my dignity intact is to tell her maybe she should go fu** herself.