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Neither of the current major party candidates is the "Grey Champion".
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(11-09-2016, 02:05 AM)pbrower2a Wrote: Assuming that Donald Trump gets elected and we end up with a single-Party regime, he will be the antithesis of a Grey Champion. Was Hitler, Mussolini, Milosevich, Mugabe, or (Hugo) Chavez a Grey Champion?

The closest analogue that I see to Donald Trump is Slobodan Milosevich, the sort who sees a mandate to use one democratic election as the excuse to shut out the other side indefinitely and enrich himself as a corrupt kleptocrat. Donald Trump is already a corrupt kleptocrat, so he will simply be a corrupt kleptocrat on a bigger scale.  Mark my words: if you didn't vote for Donald Trump you are going to curse the results of this election for as long as his new dictatorial, plutocratic order remains.  

The Grey Champion of this Crisis Era need not be an America any more than the ultimate Grey Champion for Germany and Japan in the last Crisis -- the American and British leaders who became the arch-enemies of the gangster orders in  Germany and Japan and established or re-established democracy. Will the Redeemer this time be perhaps the Prime Minister of India or Japan? Or the President of Brazil?

I expect living standards to plummet. People who vote for a corrupt kleptocrat all but beg for that. People will get jobs, all right -- but they will work harder and longer for less under brutal management.

Maybe we will  have a Great Depression. Maybe the people that the system forgets beginning in January will have riots that make those of the 1960s look like garden parties. Economic failure will chastise America and force it to contemplate the gross errors of its ways on one of the darkest days in American history -- April 14, 1865 and November 22, 1963 being darker. But we Americans, especially white Americans, did it to ourselves. We have elected politicians who believe that no human suffering is in excess so long as it turns, enforces, or indulges elite gain.  

I now hate the American political process. And in view of what white Americans have voted for -- to do nasty things to people unlike themselves -- I feel shame at being a white American.

I do not see things this way. 

Trump is an outsider, and he is unpredictable. Yes, he is stoking the unprocessed hopes and fears of the electorate, but he himself is not a racist. 

People voted for Trump as a vote to "drain the swamp", to vote against Clinton, or as a move away from neoliberalism. 

Cinton, by the way, is hardly a Democrat. She's a Republican in policy, and has only recently taken on socially liberal views when forced to. Furthermore, Clinton is firmly sided with the Oligarchy, she has no interest in improving the lives of the middle class or the lower class. 

I think Bernie may be the GC, if there will be one at all. 

The division in the USA is not new its been brewing for decades. This 4T is about resolution of those divides. How can we connect to one another? 

We must move past identity politics and find common causes.
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RE: Neither of the current major party candidates is the "Grey Champion". - by 2Legit2Quit - 11-21-2016, 09:32 AM

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