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Bipartisan Senate group proposes ‘no fly, no buy’ gun measure
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(02-12-2018, 12:40 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: Here is another one.  Anyone can cross a state line and the laws of the original state still apply.  Thus, if it is legal to conceal carry somewhere in the US, it would be legal to carry everywhere. CBS covers it at  The showdown over the Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act

This will essentially allow red staters to conceal carry in any state.  It is another attempt by congress to impose the values of one part of the country on another.  It can be interpreted as an attempt to enable the Second Amendment's original intent.

It would make it unsafe to live in any US state. Right now, it is unsafe for anyone to travel to most non-coastal states. This bill is a dire threat to the safety of Americans. As I showed, red states and states with lax guns laws tend to have higher murder rates, and much higher rates of gun violence. Of course, the southern states across the nation are the most dangerous. My advice is don't travel there. Someone could take out a gun and shoot you if they don't like you.

I think the bill can be blocked if it requires a filibuster. There are only 6 red-state Democrats, although there are 7 or 8 purple state Democrats who live in carry states.

As much as deceived folks like bobc want a civil war if ANY gun control is passed, this bill would make many blue state Americans think that separation and secession is the best option. Personally, I am beginning to think many of these conservative Republican Americans are so different from the people I know and love that we should not be considered to be part of the same nation; perhaps not even of the same race. They are recognizably, observably different. I'm not sure how fully this applies to these Republican-voting people in red and other states; but the Trump base seems mostly to be sticking with him, and that would certainly include on this issue. We can hope some of them are realizing their error now, to an extent; at least in their support of the Drumpling.

Even as far back as 1972, I could tell when I was registering voters which party they would sign up with, just by looking at them. I registered over 1000 voters that year. The difference is much more stark today.

No-one really needs a gun for any purpose. I know the red state culture thinks otherwise, and this will not change anytime soon. But IMO there are better options for rural defense, better options for managing wildlife, and better hobbies to pursue. No other nation has as many guns as we do, and no other nation makes it a part of their lifestyle and culture, except perhaps some undeveloped, violent, barbaric nations in Latin American and Africa. 

It is an American disease, and it's that simple. And if there has been a reduction in crime, it is not due to more open or concealed carry laws. It is due to a reduction in gun ownership, and a change in youth generations. And the NRA is interested only in making money from the gun industry.

60 Minutes covered this issue well last night.
Here are excerpts and interview with the reporter.
https://youtu.be/uxjscb6Gpbc

Here's an excerpt:
https://youtu.be/4-rrm14nMr0


And notice how different the pro/red and con/blue folks are.
"I close my eyes, and I can see a better day" -- Justin Bieber

Keep the spirit alive;
Eric M
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RE: Bipartisan Senate group proposes ‘no fly, no buy’ gun measure - by Eric the Green - 02-12-2018, 12:59 PM

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