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Bipartisan Senate group proposes ‘no fly, no buy’ gun measure
(03-06-2018, 07:57 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:
(03-06-2018, 02:29 PM)David Horn Wrote:
(03-05-2018, 11:36 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: Rights are limited in that they do not give any ability to harm others, nor violate the rights of others.  

I keep asking for other limitations, to no avail.  People say the constitution can be ignored, but never ever say when.  I think I am the only one who states the limits traditionally placed on the Bill of Rights.

Guns are lethal weapons, so limitations on ownership and use are to be expected.  For now, Heller makes private ownership a right, but Dredd Scott made the private ownership of people a right too.  It didn't last, and I doubt Heller will last either.

Again. you avoided naming a right that is limited except when harming others or denying others rights.  Those two, even I would agree with.  

There is no limit saying the constitution can be voided at whim.

I'll give three off the top of my head:
  • Apparently, it's OK with the SCOTUS for law enforcement to seize property without due process, forcing people never charged with any crime or later found not guilty to sue for recovery.  I vehemently disagree with this policy, and even more with the support it's received through the courts.  Nonetheless, it's permissible. 
  • A less controversial example is the permissible limits governments can place on assembly based not on actual harm but only the potential for it. 
  • It's also illegal to consume peyote, even though some native American religions consider it a sacrament.
I'm sure there are others.
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RE: Bipartisan Senate group proposes ‘no fly, no buy’ gun measure - by David Horn - 03-07-2018, 11:57 AM

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