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Bipartisan Senate group proposes ‘no fly, no buy’ gun measure
(03-13-2018, 05:11 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:
(03-13-2018, 02:23 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:
(03-13-2018, 10:46 AM)David Horn Wrote: Just so you know.  There was an idiot I knew in my youth (he lived next door to me at the time) who had a violent streak from early age (he actually tired to hang me in his basement when I was 8).  As an adult, he was able to buy and keep on his property a piece of field artillery, get primers for the casings and reload them in his home.  He couldn't get the actual rounds, so he used baseballs.  He fired them at, among other targets, 18-wheelers passing by his property.  He was arrested many times before he managed to get killed in a gun fight with several of his "neighbors".

That should never have been allowed in the first place.  Never!

You should have figured out that episodes can't be used in the gun debate.  They usually favor one side or the other.  Whatever your values are, the corresponding episodes get thrown away.  Many a right winger would suggest the ability of the neighbors above to arm ultimately solved the problem, for example.

The good guys should be well trained, equipped and ready.  The bad guys should be disarmed, but often can't be by law.  That can be shifted.  The abuse of a right could remove it.  The violently mentally defective are rare, but they can and should be disarmed.  They still deserve due process, though.  You shouldn't ignore the law because you don't like it, and in general prohibition is not the answer.

The idea that there are good guys and bad guys, and the good guys should have guns to stop the bad guys, is a fool's nonsense that gets us nowhere. Everyone with a gun is a potential bad guy. Guns make people into bad guys. Disarmament should be the goal. I understand that USA people aren't there yet, so mass prohibition and mass confiscation is not possible, but prohibition on certain kinds of guns, and due process to limit who can get guns, are still allowed and should be done.
Everyone with a gun is a potential good guy who could save your life.
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RE: Bipartisan Senate group proposes ‘no fly, no buy’ gun measure - by Classic-Xer - 03-13-2018, 05:55 PM

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