03-13-2018, 06:41 PM
(03-13-2018, 05:55 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:(03-13-2018, 05:11 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: The idea that there are good guys and bad guys, and the good guys should have guns to stop the bad guys, is a fool's nonsense that gets us nowhere. Everyone with a gun is a potential bad guy. Guns make people into bad guys. Disarmament should be the goal. I understand that USA people aren't there yet, so mass prohibition and mass confiscation is not possible, but prohibition on certain kinds of guns, and due process to limit who can get guns, are still allowed and should be done.Everyone with a gun is a potential good guy who could save your life.
I see both groups seeing the world working in a certain simplistic way, and it becomes clear what you have to do to make things 'better'. Few people want to really accept what the other believes at the core level. Both are willing to try to coerce the other guy into following alien beliefs, attempting to use democracy to crush rights, or use rights to block democracy.
Perhaps both sets of values can work. Perhaps in some reality prohibition can work, politicians or appointees can bend the law to their daydreams without consequences, prohibition could work, Washington could bend values and pigs could fly. Perhaps some world could exist where having the good guys constantly defenseless is a win.
The blue daydream on violence cannot and has not worked.
That this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom, and that government of the people, by the people, for the people shall not perish from the earth.