Bipartisan Senate group proposes ‘no fly, no buy’ gun measure

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(03-13-2018, 06:41 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: I see both groups seeing the world working in a certain simplistic way, and it becomes clear what you have to do to make things 'better'.  Few people want to really accept what the other believes at the core level.  Both are willing to try to coerce the other guy into following alien beliefs, attempting to use democracy to crush rights, or use rights to block democracy.

Perhaps both sets of values can work.  Perhaps in some reality prohibition can work, politicians or appointees can bend the law to their daydreams without consequences, prohibition could work, Washington could bend values and pigs could fly.  Perhaps some world could exist where having the good guys constantly defenseless is a win.

The blue daydream on violence cannot and has not worked.

Is it a matter of ideals, a matter of values or a matter of one (ideal) and another (value) conflicting with each other or a simple matter of two opposing views and disagreements that being represented by an idealist and a pragmatic?