03-14-2018, 02:07 PM
(03-14-2018, 01:36 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote:(03-13-2018, 06:41 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: I see both groups seeing the world working in a certain simplistic way, and it becomes clear what you have to do to make things 'better'. Few people want to really accept what the other believes at the core level. Both are willing to try to coerce the other guy into following alien beliefs, attempting to use democracy to crush rights, or use rights to block democracy.
Perhaps both sets of values can work. Perhaps in some reality prohibition can work, politicians or appointees can bend the law to their daydreams without consequences, prohibition could work, Washington could bend values and pigs could fly. Perhaps some world could exist where having the good guys constantly defenseless is a win.
The blue daydream on violence cannot and has not worked.
Is it a matter of ideals, a matter of values or a matter of one (ideal) and another (value) conflicting with each other or a simple matter of two opposing views and disagreements that being represented by an idealist and a pragmatic?
Follow both idealized models to their logical ends and defend or demagogue each fairly. Adding more and more guns and having them present in more and more places literally forces people who would rather not have them to get them and keep them handy. In short, you have an nation of paranoid people each trying to defend against the unknown "other". Removing all guns make the US like other advanced countries, where violence is lower and gun violence virtually nonexistent.
The first case is hypothetical, at least for now. The second case is commonly practiced nearly everywhere.
Intelligence is not knowledge and knowledge is not wisdom, but they all play well together.