03-19-2018, 01:06 PM
(03-18-2018, 03:37 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:(03-18-2018, 10:18 AM)Eric the Green Wrote: No, blue/green is liberal. Everyone admits that. You are presenting a rather unconventional theory. Insulting me does not prove your point; sorryYes, blue/green is commonly associated with the term liberal. I'll agree with you and I'll add that's about the only thing that's liberal about you. You're a liberal green/blue and a left wing reactionary of some sort. Blues burn the flag because the flag has no meaning to blues and represents nothing of value to blues. The blues want their own flag because the American flag of old is viewed as tainted, as mean, as unjust or as whatever negative thought that some blues/greens have or use to turn people way from it. I'm not opposed to blues burning our flag or spouting out negatives or doing stupid shit either. I'm in favor of allowing AMERICA to see it and see all of it."Red America" today represents voter suppression, gerrymandering, collusion with foreign powers in elections, voting by race and appeals to xenophobia in a nation of immigrants, money-dominated politics and lobbying, banks being allowed to cheat customers, dirty and oppressive wars and detentions abroad that serve oil interests and kill thousands of innocent people, threats against newspapers and broadcasters, threats and laws against protesters, huge tax breaks to corporations and billionaires; you think this is "the flag, the Constitution, the American rule of law, the protection of American rights"? Or maybe you mean laws against burning the flag is "American"? Justice Scalia disagreed. No, it's constitutional. Your red "American" rights consist merely of symbolism, protection of the white and the rich, protection of moneyed interests, protection of the right to possess military weapons. NO thanks for that "America." The battle against it is well-known among Democrats.
You are on the reactionary side, because that's what red voters are today. I have already described what reds support, and why it's reactionary. Not to say that I haven't done that here for 20 years already. It's all very clear, and only awaits your awakening to see that it is better for your interests to act and vote from the larger view than from the narrow reactionary view.
I have no objection to the flag; it's a perfectly fine flag to represent the USA. The important point is for the USA to live up to the ideals and principles it represents. Right now, red politics in interested only in tarnishing these principles and ideals as fully as they can. So, blues and greens may protest against these travesties, and suggest alternative policies that are constructive to our communities, our nation and our world. They may carry and raise the flag, or they may burn it, or they may carry other flags to make their points. That is using the principles to which this nation is dedicated.