03-24-2018, 04:46 PM
(03-24-2018, 02:08 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote:(03-23-2018, 01:49 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: Come now, you know that I have recognized in my posts that red used to be the color of communism. I go back a ways.Red is still associated with communism and other reactionary forms of government. The Democratic party still seems pretty pinko to me. From a liberal marketing stand point, blue is better choice of color to use for the Democratic party. I think it was a very clever move to switch the Democratic color from Red to Blue. Blue is much more appealing and doesn't have the stigma associated with red.
I developed an election board game in 1980. Back then, blue was commonly used for Republicans and red for Democrats on network TV maps. I thought that was appropriate because after all, Democrats were kinda pinko. So I used those colors for my game pieces. Brower as you know posts maps that still have those colors.
But by the year 2000, as the Bush v Gore standoff occurred, it had become established during network TV coverage of presidential elections, that red was used on the big USA map for states won by Republicans, and blue for Democrats. That's only where the red and blue meanings come from, and not from liberals who want to call Republicans commies. Blue is also a commonly-used color for labor unions, which usually align with Democrats. So there was some justification for the blue = Democrats on that basis, even though labor is also somewhat related to red socialism. Red could be kinda appropriate too for Republicans now, since nowadays most staunch Republicans are rural "rednecks."
It's just symbolism. You have a hard time separating symbols from reality. Desecrating the flag is a sin, and "American" means old-fashioned white Christian values. So be it.
If you don't like your posts being called racist, then don't make racist posts.
Most people did better under Obamacare. I hear you that you are worse off. The real solution is single payer, but Republicans and Libertarians won't hear of it. Yes, it does take taxes to truly help the less fortunate. Voluntary methods don't work and never have. Taxes used to help the less fortunate go back thousands of years. It is your party that is the radical one that is trying to send us back to the 18th century.
I say say something bad about welfare or welfare recipients, you automatically associate it with racism or label me racist. I say something about illegal immigration or securing borders, you automatically associate with racism or label me racist. You've been trained/conditioned by your liberal/Progressive masters well old grass hopper. I don't think burning an American flag is a wise thing to do in America today. I don't think it's wise for liberal groups to support it either. Me, I just just view it as anti-American and associate it anti-American groups who are burning over seas.
I assume most people on the blue side did better under Obamacare. I don't know how you can do better than free healthcare or damn near free healthcare. The less fortunate got a helluva deal. I wasn't fortunate enough to get a hell of a deal like them.
It wasn't marketing, as I pointed out. The TV networks chose those colors; nobody else.
I associate what you say with racism, because you make it clear that you imply it in your statements. When you don't make racist statements, then I don't call them that. I understand that someone can be against welfare and yet not be a racist. I also know that many times, people against welfare are racists. It depends on the statements they make.
I think some middle class people did better under Obamacare. A lot of Trump voters have turned on him because he's dismantling Obamacare. Obamacare won't work unless everyone's in.