Bipartisan Senate group proposes ‘no fly, no buy’ gun measure

[Bob Butler 54]

(03-26-2018, 01:08 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

(03-25-2018, 07:38 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: Not so. The command and control systems in this country are the corporations. The bosses are the ones in control of our top-down system, and that extends to most non-profits and family-owned and smaller businesses as well. Just like Donald Trump so famously does, they hire and fire you, tell what to do on the job, and set your wages and benefits. Meanwhile, traditional religions keeps male adults in power at home too. The government, on the other hand, has its locus of power in the voters, even though the real command and control system (the wealthy, the church and the corporations) wield outsized influence in the government and are able to deceive the red voters into supporting them and their top-down trickle-down policies. 

But the people can and will take their government back in the 2020s. When it acts for the people, the government's command structure acts to control the excesses of the bosses. The bosses complain that this infringes on their "freedom." Deceived red voters believe this tempting tripe. The red politicians promise them lower taxes and traditional values, and the red voters swallow the bait.

As I've told you before, your masters have trained you well grass hopper. You were a boss. Who made the decisions for your business, you or someone else you paid to make the decisions for you? It will be interesting to see what your answer is so I can see what kind of business owner you were at the time.

Honestly, I don't really care about how people run their business's or their households or which sex makes the final decisions. I know women who wear the pants and make the bulk of the decisions for the family. I don't believe traditional religion decides who has the power at home either. The women in my family were quite capable of making decisions themselves and their families. That's how our young women are being raised today. We are raising them to think for themselves and we are preparing them to be decision makers and become strong independent women.

(Responding more towards Eric, but to both...)

I see the cycle as favoring conservatives most of the time, but it favors the progressives really a lot occasionally.

The old pattern in the Industrial Age was that new values are declared in the awakening, debated and compromised in the unraveling, with trial and error taking place in crisis to implement the new values, and frozen, set in stone during the high.

But the Industrial Age is over, with computers and nukes, at about the end of WW II.  The old patterns are questionable, and never held well outside of Anglo American civilization.

New values were proclaimed in the 1960s awakening, but implemented almost immediately.  The blue GIs made big changes, enough that I am looking to an awakening pattern to dominate values change in the next age.  The red had Future Shock.  Little change has happened since.  We are stuck in a see saw pattern, with the red and blue governments tick off the opposite people and are unable to work their respective agendas.  We have had no regeneracy yet.  While both agendas are defined, pushing them too hard has angered the people of one ilk or the other.  No one value set has dominated.

Almost.  The established politicians of both factions were disliked by their rank and file in 2016.  Division of wealth, to much productivity and global warming are killers.  They are problems that will have to be solved, and the blue people have more chances of real solution.  Refusing to see the problems will not solve them.

But they can delay addressing problems, which makes them worse.

So I am still a Whig.  I see progress, but often progress delayed by the powers that be.