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Bipartisan Senate group proposes ‘no fly, no buy’ gun measure
(03-27-2018, 12:32 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote:
(03-25-2018, 06:42 PM)pbrower2a Wrote:
(03-25-2018, 04:01 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote: Disturbing. It would be even more disturbing if they were the ones who actually did all the shooting. Blue are making a great case for Red guns to remain idle and silent while blues are being slaughtered by criminals.

Do we blame drug traffickers for the misery that illicit drugs cause? Of course. Was the slaver as culpable in the horrors of slavery as the planters who owned slaves? I would think so. The person who established the logistics of transporting Jews to their doom in Hitlerland (Adolf Eichmann) was as culpable as the person who cast the pellets of Zyklon-B into the gas chambers.

The National Rifle Association is the main defender of profitable weapons of unmitigated danger to people. It resists every effort to restrain gun use. It may be right about advocating more commitments for mental illness, but that is not the focus of the NRA. It has blood on its hands -- and it hasn't been cutting meat in a butcher shop.
The NRA represents/ protects the rights of legal gun owners not the guns themselves. I'm a gun owner. You have a mental health issue (emotional issue) like the bulk of the mass shooters had emotional/mental health issues.

My mental health 'issue' is Asperger's syndrome, which cannot be used as a mitigating factor in criminal cases. People me must simply choose to avoid doing evil things to people, and we are about as normal at that as any other people. People with Asperger's syndrome have an advantage in avoiding criminal convictions because (1) like most handicapped people we are cautious. (2) we are less prone than the average to chemical dependencies commonplace among offe4nders, and (3) we are good at calculating the consequences of our behavior. After all, most of us know that we would be exceptionally vulnerable in any penal setting.

The only major offender that I suspect has Asperger's is Unabom terrorist Ted Kaczynski.

I have had situational depression within the last five years, so that ought to keep me from getting a firearm.

Quote:Lets get real, I'm taking the position that liberals have taken with me/ gun owner's.  I associate all people with mental health issues whether they're treatable or not, whether they're age related or not, whether they're actually dangerous or not, simply  because a few people with mental health issues (emotional problems) have been directly involved in several mass shootings and other acts of known terrorism. I could take them all into account but I won't because I'm being liberal now. All I'm going to do now is fixate on mental health issues and say stupid/ thoughtless  stuff, make fake claims, vague statements because that's all that I need to do to be liberal now.    Being liberal is easy. If I didn't have scruples, I'd slide across and make a fortune.

Vagueness is not a liberal vice. I am a liberal in part because I would be a very nasty person if I were a right-winger.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist  but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.


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RE: Bipartisan Senate group proposes ‘no fly, no buy’ gun measure - by pbrower2a - 03-27-2018, 01:35 AM

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