Bipartisan Senate group proposes ‘no fly, no buy’ gun measure

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(05-01-2018, 08:00 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

(05-01-2018, 06:06 PM)pbrower2a Wrote:

(04-30-2018, 06:35 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:

(04-29-2018, 09:13 AM)pbrower2a Wrote: Am I perfectly rational? No.

I know you have some sort of dog thing.  You seem obsessed and delusional.  Well, in the old days of hunter gatherers, the dogs would corner or exhaust the prey, and wait for the more deadly of the two partners to arrive.  The humans were equipped, trained and ready.  They would finish the job.  The humans were dominant, the dogs less so.

Since then, many humans have chosen to become wimps.  Not all, but many.  Technology has potentially made them all the more potent, but many choose to be helpless.  Even today, if a criminal with a gun wanted a dog dead, the dog would be dead.  You would be a fool to seriously think otherwise.

Or at least as dead as your arguments.  Many blue think that if they really concentrate on thinking nice thoughts, they can ignore nature red with blood.  Well, they can't.  It isn't done by wishful thinking.  Bottom line, you still have to be stronger than the other guy.  If you think you don't have to be, you might be dreaming.

Nature is red in blood. The human-canine partnership is effectively one bear, Big Cat, or hyena.

The dog that the crook knows about and for which he has a firearm ready is going to lose. But remember that if the crook does not know about the dog, then the advantage goes to the dog. A dog is usually strong enough to overpower a man three times the dog's mass. of the crook is knocked down, then the dog may have effectively separated the crook from his weapons. He will be be defending himself from bites, and not very well. Crooks often act at night, but dogs have better night vision, let alone scent and hearing. The fog knows about a crook, all too often, before the crook knows about the dog. Whoever attacks first wins.

You must not be as familiar with dogs as me. How many dogs are professionally trained or simply allowed by their owners to be ruthless and mean and conditioned to attack humans? I don't see very many of them in homes or out on farms or on the streets for that matter.

Dogs don't have to be 'professionally trained' to be deterrents. A crook has to be 'professionally trained' to be able to confront every dog that he might encounter. The trained attack dog is as much a master of stealth as a leopard, and in a confrontation with a criminal it is almost as effective. Almost -- because a criminal has everything to lose in the encounter, but unlike an encounter with a leopard the crook is likely to survive. If one is a rapist looking for a victim, a woman with a canine companion is a non-target.

Dogs are not innocuous wimps. They are predators and excellent defenders. That is the wolf heritage. They are simply the best-behaved of large animals capable of killing and eating people.  Dogs are like humans in being able to defend themselves or loved ones (the dog becomes a family member, and a human family has much the same structure as a wolf pack) even if untrained for such a role.

I lived in a high-crime area in college -- but from my understanding, crooks left us college students alone. Why? Because we knew how to carry car keys. We also had heavy college textbooks that made excellent blunt-force weapons.  We also went in groups. We were excellent witnesses for the prosecution in the event of a crime. We may have been comparatively liberal, but we were the sorts who reported people looking into parked cars for valuables or car keys. Our reputations followed us. Crooks picked other victims, especially drunks and dopers, to victimize.