(11-03-2018, 11:54 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: I know you have a dog fetish, but you really should give up the deadliness difference. And the law difference. And on understanding the founding father's perspective. Or understanding the red perspective. In fact, you are missing about half the gun issue.
I don't think he is capable of understanding these issues because they lead to conclusions that he does not like. He simply can't believe that governments tend to kill their own citizens. He believes that it can't happen here but the founding fathers had a rather different opinion which is reflected in their own actions and writings. In a very real sense the founding fathers would have agreed with Mao that political power grows out of a barrel of a gun and so they decided the people must be armed to insure that they held ultimate political power.
Pbrower missed rather more than half of the issue and seems to be heading to Eric the Obtuse levels of ignorance. From a strictly numbers point of view the garden variety criminal can't even begin to match the body count that governments routinely rack up. They simply refuse to consider the second and third order effects of policy choices.
I must admit that I really don't understand pbrower's obsession on dogs either.
Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard. -- H.L. Mencken
If one rejects laissez faire on account of man's fallibility and moral weakness, one must for the same reason also reject every kind of government action. -- Ludwig von Mises
If one rejects laissez faire on account of man's fallibility and moral weakness, one must for the same reason also reject every kind of government action. -- Ludwig von Mises