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Bipartisan Senate group proposes ‘no fly, no buy’ gun measure
(11-03-2018, 11:54 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:
(11-03-2018, 10:24 AM)pbrower2a Wrote: The Nazis didn't even allow Jews to keep pet dogs. Cats, sure, to keep rats and mice away. But dogs would have delivered a nasty mauling to a Nazi who broke into a shop window and grabbed some valuables on display or given a fair warning that the SS was there to take the family off to 'resettlement'. Resettlement that goes from a gas chamber and through a chimney.

White people in South Africa have gun rights, but how do they protect their guns? Dogs. Three 80-pound dogs acting as one predator is effectively one lioness, especially in the dark. A burglar can easily recognize that he is no longer the top of the food chain when he meets 'the Other Big Cat'. Lionesses prey on humans, and three medium-to-large dogs can suggest much the same about themselves.

Germans have fewer 'gun rights' today than Germans had under the Nazis (so long as one was on good terms with the Nazis), but by all accounts Germany is about as close to a model of liberal democracy as there can be. Freedom House recognizes Germany as better at human rights and civil liberties than the United States.

Want a defense? Get one with teeth and claws. Dogs give very bad bites, and they do not scratch like cats. They scratch worse. Having been scratched by a pet dog that meant no harm and gotten hospitalized for such, I watch dogs' front paws closely in their presence. In South Africa one would compare a pack of dogs to a lioness. In America, one would compare a pack of dogs to a bear.

I once visited a jewelry store in which the owner, an avid hunter, displayed a trophy bear with fur similar in color to that of my golden cocker spaniel. Except for the ears, the proportions were about the same. About everything was three times as large in linear dimensions, and if you roughly cube the dog into the size of the bear, then that golden cocker spaniel would be hard to distinguish from that bear. Would you like to meet a 270-pound cocker spaniel? Would you break into a house with five thirty-pound cocker spaniels if you were a burglar looking for stuff to pawn for a fix of heroin? Those five dogs might as well be one 150-pound leopard.

And all of which are no comparison to an armed human.  I can't help but look back at hunter-gatherer days when it was the dogs job to run down the prey and then wait for the humans to get there.  This trend is made no better in these bang you are dead days.

A dog knows where you belong and where others don't. Nobody wants to get mauled, and people back off from dogs.

But the large, barking dog is the usual, untrained defender. It's really asking for help. The trained security dog sneaks up on an intruder and attacks with no warning except being knocked down (which is a fall, a dangerous situation in itself) before the fangs approached. It's the primal fear, when Man's Best Friend starts acting like a bear or Big Cat, depending upon which predator is part of the local culture. 

But note well: the dog does not have to maul an intruder to drive him off. It's the best-behaved large predator, the one that can leave some doubt about who the top predator is in many places.

Quote:I know you have a dog fetish, but you really should give up the deadliness difference.  And the law difference.  And on understanding the founding father's perspective.  Or understanding the red perspective.  In fact, you are missing about half the gun issue.

The impression of deadliness is enough. "Get the Hell out of here!" is the message. The scariest situation that I have ever had came while I did Census work -- four dogs, about 80 pounds each, charging a door with a flimsy latch. I was safe so long as the latch did not break. Do the math. 320 pounds of predator facing me without a weapon? I quickly got the primal fear of being killed and eaten.

I might have gotten an award that one usually gets posthumously -- a Darwin Award. That is for doing something stupid that takes one permanently out of the gene pool, like dying or having one's reproductive capacities put at an end. Instead I submitted one
from a Detroit-area news report.

A man was driving on Interstate 75 in Detroit while watching pornography. He made a turn too fast and was thrown through the sunroof -- and killed.

His pants were down at the time.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist  but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.


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RE: Bipartisan Senate group proposes ‘no fly, no buy’ gun measure - by pbrower2a - 11-04-2018, 12:59 AM

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