11-05-2018, 02:53 AM
(11-05-2018, 01:57 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:(11-05-2018, 12:45 AM)Galen Wrote: Progressives tend to define everything as a right and has no concept of the difference between positive and negative rights. It never occurs to you that the progressive tendency to declare everything to be a human right would create a tyranny on par with the Soviet Union.Which rights are you opposed to? That a child has sufficient food to eat? Free speech? You are fond of talking about generics, and avoid speaking about how you really want society to work.
The problem with positive rights is that you have to apply coercion to get the resources for those things that you consider to be rights. There is no limit to what progressive consider to be rights which is why progressives tend to be such a nasty bunch of totalitarians.
I am not opposed to free speech but the liberals and progressive currently are hostile to free speech. The left these days label anything that someone says that they don't like as hate speech.
It is not the job of the government to take from one group of people and give to another. It wrong for an individual to do this and it is wrong for a group of people including a group called the government or the state. Initiating force even to do something good is still wrong because it is a violation of the non-aggression principle. This is why libertarians oppose the welfare state. Just because the theft occurs at the hands of the state does not make theft any less wrong.
Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard. -- H.L. Mencken
If one rejects laissez faire on account of man's fallibility and moral weakness, one must for the same reason also reject every kind of government action. -- Ludwig von Mises
If one rejects laissez faire on account of man's fallibility and moral weakness, one must for the same reason also reject every kind of government action. -- Ludwig von Mises