11-15-2018, 11:45 PM
(11-15-2018, 03:59 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:(11-14-2018, 06:55 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:Bob, I don't expect blue voters to start flowing our/my way. I expect red voters who live in blue areas who no longer have representation to start flowing our way and I expect red areas to start doing what blue areas are doing which blues are viewing as acceptable. I expect red areas to start ignoring blue laws and I expect the blues in those areas to start flowing your way as a result. I used to tell blues, I'll take one worker/ quality individual over ten welfare recipients/idiots (I'd be willing to trade 10 welfare recipients for one worker) any day. Yes, I'm willing to sacrifice mass quantity for fewer quality related people. If you don't see the value in that move then you're in trouble long term. So, this is what I see happening over the next decade as America continues positioning itself for the upcoming 4T. You shouldn't believe what the elites are telling you about us, you should be listening what we're telling you about us and you should be seeing how effective we are about they way we tend to operate and how intelligent we are as individuals and how much more common sense we have than the average blue. You're fortunate, you generally don't hear much coming from us.(11-14-2018, 03:37 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote: Were the seats in bluer areas or redder areas? I live in one of those areas that flipped. I can tell you this, the Democrat who represent me has two years to cut a deal with the Republicans or she's gone in 2020. I didn't vote for her or the Republican she defeated. I voted for the Independent to wake up the Republican leadership. As I mentioned before, I didn't view the house as a major priority in this election. I viewed the Senate as the priority in this election. The Republican house needed a boot in the ass for its healthcare debacle. Like I said, Republicans are different than Democrats when it comes to failing to serve our interests. We'll accept a Democrat for a couple of years to get what we want in the long term. Unfortunately, blue voters don't have that luxury.
It seems natural for everybody to expect the country to flow their way, that everyone will see things from their perspective. I'm as guilty as anyone. How long before people notice that the economy tanks every time the Republicans apply voodoo economics? A few more storms have hit the south? While the Democrats have nominated a black and a woman, and this lost them about the whole deplorable vote, will the Republicans be that lucky forever? Trump will have two more years in office, which will give him time to amplify the see saw flip? The voters that made the southern strategy work are aging out of the voter pool?
We'll see. The Democrats are facing a mighty see saw.
What seems to be true, is that you underestimate blues because you think we are all dependent on government. I'm sure you know that red states get the benefit of tax money raised in blue states, which pay more and get less. I'm sure you know that smart young people in red states move out to blue states. At least that was how it was until some blue states got too expensive to live in, because they are desirable places with opportunity, whereas red states are ugly basket cases with no opportunity. Apparently when Kansas was taken over by red reactionaries, a few years ago, the people soon had enough and started voting blue. Maybe that will happen in some other red states. Already we see Texas and Arizona turning purple and maybe Georgia too. But Florida is one strange case.