Bipartisan Senate group proposes ‘no fly, no buy’ gun measure

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(11-20-2018, 01:30 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote: Bob doesn't seem to understand that there's two groups of progressives, a blue group that's fighting like crazy to protect itself and the systems they use to control and a reddish group who is working to break the cycles that has been trapping people and holding people back  for years.

I do understand there are multiple motivations.  Some will support movements like Me Too to end the abuse of women which has gone on for years and is almost traditional.  Some are out for power, and are using the movement to hurt Trump, Kavanaugh and other specific red people.  In the process, if some of them end up under the bus, that is the cost of doing business.  The red are certainly not the sole abusers.  Then there are 'all men are created equal' folk who support multiple minorities seeking to fight the prejudices of the white males.

And this is par for the course, the way the elites exploit exploitation, how values change to become more inclusive.  The elites want to hurt someone, so they get behind what suddenly is unacceptable.

I don't know about reddish progressives.  (Oxymoron?)   I am more used to among the reddish, the KKK, the votes stolen by the Republican Southern Strategy, the so called deplorables.  The Agricultural Age was one of class and privilege, and some of it lingers, and this is what it is all about, preserving or rejecting white male Protestant class and privilege.  This doesn't mean there are not honorable Reds.  There certainly are.  I am just not used to thinking of them as numerous or dominant.  There is nothing wrong with small government and self reliance.  Population density certainly effects how to best provide necessary services, and how obvious problems are where a person lives.  

There is something wrong with ignoring real problems, prejudice and being selfish.  Unravellings should come as part of the cycles, but should not last forever.  The Reagan unravelling values have run their time.