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Bipartisan Senate group proposes ‘no fly, no buy’ gun measure
(12-04-2018, 12:14 PM)pbrower2a Wrote:
(12-04-2018, 06:17 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: A quibble first, and one thing missing.

The 'Deplorables' include not only the under-educated white Christian (largely Fundamentalist) losers of the economic struggle in America who were never going to enjoy the cultural richness of a diverse America, but also the economic elites who would face competition from people not white and nominally Christian. (OK, Sheldon Adelson is very much a 'Deplorable'; consider that all that he has to offer is the rip-off of casino gambling). Palin and Trump are similar in their intellectual superficiality, and the 'Deplorables' consider such a sort of innocence. The 'Deplorables' had their bad experiences with schoolteachers who corrected  their grammar, and they consider educated people of any kind an abusive, exploitative elite.

The problem is in part that one cannot challenge the system unless able to express one's discord with coherent language -- implying word choice and syntax. If I look at the struggle of African-Americans against their systematic degradation, I find that the educated elite among blacks, whether Booker T. Washington or W. E. B. DuBois in the past, as the ones who challenged the status quo by using the tools of language and rational thought to show the disparity between the stated ideals of American  civic life and the sordid reality. Because the best and brightest often ended up in the pulpit, someone like Martin Luther King could show how un-Christian and immoral segregation is. Language, logic, and moral judgment are essential to radical change.  




Even formal education is a 'long-term' solution to personal problems. The old objective of a university education was to improve the student so that he would not be the swine who devours the pearls, but instead recognizes that the pearls are worthy of separating from something suitable only for eating. We all know what youth can be like if it believes in nothing other than immediate gratification; it is not pretty. 

This said, the 'Deplorables' obviously see others getting ahead despite being non-white or non-Christian. The 'deplorable' are at most barely middle-class in economic result unless they are the pigs who own or manage the monopoly, cartel, or crony-capitalist business of America for whom fascism would be the dream for getting people to work to exhaustion for survival rations and slum housing in a thoroughly grim, dreary, joyless world. It is best that these people never watch Crazy Rich Asians; 'model minorities' are the people most vulnerable to dispossession, abuse, and genocide when the opportunity arises. Just think of German Jews who thought that they differed from gentile Germans only by rejecting Jesus, not eating pork or shellfish, and having their religious life in Hebrew instead of German or Latin. People often see people somehow different from themselves doing well, and that can only mean exploitation.  



It's as much ethnicity as anything else. Poor blacks recognize the black bourgeoisie as allies and not as enemies. Poor Hispanics see well-off Hispanics as allies and not as enemies. Poor Asians see the well-off of their ethnic group as allies and not as enemies. Poor whites see the white middle class as exploiters and abusers. But ask yourself: if you are part of the northern white middle class, what have you ever done for poor whites living in the Mountain or Deep South? Probably nothing except perhaps to buy some souvenirs while on a trip to Great Smoky Mountains National Park. If you think that 'Country' isn't music in the sense that J S Bach is music, then you are not part of the culture. You might as well be Japanese.

Democratic pols Up North used to give a damn about poor white people in the Mountain and Deep South -- but that is over. It is hard to determine where culpability lies.
I'm not sure who comes across as more deplorable these days. The working class voters (the so called under educated) who who weren't happy about the direction that the liberals burned Hilary Clinton and the Democratic party who has been exploiting their loyalty for years or the left wing political hacks like yourself or the urban gangs or the low life's who spend their time finding ways to take advantage of peoples values and systems. Well, you have a problem with the bulk of the US taxpayers. You have a problem that is only going to get worse for the other deplorable folks as time passes. You see, it goes like this, every time you open you're foolish mouth and offend, the deeper the hole you dig for yourself with the folks that you are now becoming more reliant upon. Like I've said, I don't care what happens to people like you. I don't care if you blow your brains out or you loose your job or you end up being viewed by the working class as niggers who happen to have white skin and seem to be fairly well educated. What makes you feel that you're better than the so-called deplorable? Dude, I look down on you all the time and all the so-called deplorable are looking down on you all the time too. Heck, a poor working class person who owns a trailer home and a small chunk of relatively cheap land has a right to be able look down on some low end dude with a worthless college degree with exceptional skills that doesn't require someone with a college degree to match these days. Who are you to me? You're a deplorable who hasn't come to grips with the reality of your lowly social status and the grim economic future you'll be facing alone without mom and dad being around to fall back on or bail you out.
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RE: Bipartisan Senate group proposes ‘no fly, no buy’ gun measure - by Classic-Xer - 12-04-2018, 09:57 PM

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