12-07-2018, 09:13 PM
(12-03-2018, 09:50 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:(12-02-2018, 04:58 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote:(12-01-2018, 03:38 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:I don't live in a red state or a red rural county either. However, I'm familiar with them enough to know that they're actually more civilized than the urban slums that I've seen that are associated with Democrats. I can see why you don't want lots of legal and illegal so-called weapons of war ending up in the hands of those folks or the hands of Neo-Nazi's. I mean those folks are really mean What would you do if you found out that a lot of your neighbors actually own firearms? I know a lot of my neighbors and customers own firearms. I know Democratic voters who own AR-15's. I know Republican voters who own AR-15's. I know women who own AR-15's. I know there are lots of Minnesota residents walking around neighborhoods and driving around who are armed with semi automatic pistols as well. I know there are over a million Minnesotans who own high powered rifles of some sort. I'm not going to beat you up or shoot you because of your views. I'm not going to enter into harms way or raise a weapon to defend you/ save you because of your views. In other words, I'm more likely to respect your views and remain idle like a good liberal than naturally engage like a good conservative. I doubt God has much interest in idiots.(11-30-2018, 10:49 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:(11-30-2018, 03:18 AM)Eric the Green Wrote: No I am not dogmatic, to the extent that I am willing to compromise with rural people and settle for what I can get regarding gun laws. The right-wing is dogmatic and ruthless on this issue, and on EVERY issue. They insist that urban people MUST have the permissive gun laws that suit rural culture, and are total slaves to the NRA. The Left is mostly not as dogmatic and uncompromising, although some of the Bernie vs. Hillary people have become more so. That's just the political landscape of our time.Eric, are you familiar with the old American adage/ golden rule of "to each their own". I assume that you're not or you don't place enough value on it to recognize it or protect it. Eric, you have to be careful because a serious run in with someone like me would not be favorable to someone like you. As I've mentioned before, I will watch as you're being beaten to death and not lift a finger or squeeze a trigger despite having a weapon with the capability and the skill to use it effectively for the purpose of your defense as well as my own. Do idiot blues deserve to live? Do idiot blues deserve risking lives to save? I don't think so. However, I'm sure that there are many blue who would disagree with me and my view of blues like yourself. Healthcare cost won the House and you're still stuck on gun control.
So, no, none of what you say is true. Same advice applies to you, I'm afraid. Yes, I am very liberal and set in a lot of my views, but like Obama said, I don't have to demand perfection, I can settle for better. The Parkland students recommend what I recommend, so I am not more dogmatic or fanatical than they when it comes to AR-15s. To insist that weapons of war be taken off our streets does not make me fanatical or dogmatic, even if I don't agree with your constitutional reasoning.
All people on the internet tend to be stubborn in their views; I am not more so than others. So insulting people who have different views is not necessarily warranted, Bob.
Fortunately, I don't live in a red state or county. My county voted 72% for Hillary Clinton and only 22% for Donald Trump; the rest going for Johnson and Stein. I don't even remember ever even seeing a gun. I have some Republican neighbors, but I have no evidence that they have guns. I have no evidence that the Republicans in my neighborhood are as fanatic and mean as you say that you are, with one possible exception. I have no fear that someone who opposes my views on gun control is going to shoot me or beat me up because of my views. I live in a more civilized place than you do.
ha ha! I doubt God chooses "interest" based on political party or ideology.
If a lot of neighbors have weapons of war like you say Minnesotans do, I would consider where I live to be much more civilized. Since Minnesota is a blue state, I would consider it more civilized than red states, where old west fantasies about guns and other old-fashioned policies and cultures still reign. I don't doubt the worst slums are not very safe, with gang murders and drug wars and such, and I don't doubt that the minority of folks there who vote, vote Democratic. But of course now Democrats are the majority in very safe urban cities and suburbs. I know California is the most restrictive state on guns, and Minnesota is better than average. I know that blue states with tougher gun laws are safer overall, according to stats I have already posted here. But state gun laws so far are only partially successful because the NRA still rules national laws.