(12-11-2018, 01:58 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote: Actually, its not hard to make that determination, I've been doing it for a long time. Why wouldn't they? They crashed through Mexico's southern border or weren't you paying attention to that at the time. As far as I know, US troops can shoot foreigners who attack and threaten the lives of US citizens. You better pull your head out before you have no say in what the American people decide to do about the blue issue and your queen better figure out that most American people are able to make determinations between the Democrats of old and the blues who are running/controlling their party today.
The typical American soldier has much more conscience than our current President, and he is now trained to recognize an illegal order as one to disobey and protest. Orders to commit war crimes and crimes against Humanity are illegal orders. Refusal to obey such an order is to be expected. Sure, point a gun at an armed American soldier and expect to die. That falls under the category of "clear and present danger", as in "pull a gun on a cop and expect to die".
I do not see people seeking to enter the United States illegally as a clear and present danger to Americans unless they bear arms or are part of a terrorist plot. These people want the peace and safety in the USA.
You need to recognize that those Central Americans are fleeing violence related to drug activity that American addicts are financing through their purchases of addictive substances. Drug money creates misery and rends the fabric of civil society. Were it not for the trade in illicit drugs, people would not be desperate to leave some of the most dangerous places in the world that are not war zones or places of lethal epidemics.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.