12-19-2018, 01:02 PM
(12-19-2018, 11:12 AM)David Horn Wrote:(12-18-2018, 06:12 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: This site should be and is politically neutral, but limited in allowing things like insults and obscenity. You have it backwards.
Other sites can be different.
While agreeing with your immediate point, this may be a thread that's live beyond its days. No one's budging, and tempers are rising. Time to move on.
The thread has been off-subject for a long time anyway.
If you want to start a general red v blue thread, I would be game. We seem to need a place to talk more than the gun issue.
The gun issue has been talked to death.
I don't see the believers in prohibition doing due process on the questionably sane. In principle, without amending the Constitution, it would take only two people to remove a constitutional right. One would likely be a judge, the other a psychiatrist. One of the early standard model cases made the point that a constitutional right could not be removed without due process, which is why the no fly list didn't fly and the suicide by cop and mass shooter trends have not been quashed by legal action.
I am not seeing an armed rebellion while the see saw keeps flipping. If power is going to switch every 4 to 8 years anyway, folks are not going to start an armed conflict these days. The red belief that arms can be used to to fight a tyrannical federal government is not apt to be tested. Meanwhile, gun ownership's merits does change with population density, the country is going to be divided, and if we are going to go with the Constitution, there will be no change in the base laws.
But every issue has been talked to death. Isn't that why we are here?
I think we have reset recently, people are behaving. The moderator just has to be active every once in a while.
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