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Bipartisan Senate group proposes ‘no fly, no buy’ gun measure
(12-30-2018, 01:16 PM)pbrower2a Wrote:
(12-30-2018, 04:15 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote:
(12-29-2018, 02:10 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: Has anyone thought about whether financial institutions (banks that offer credit cards) have a right to control purchases of objects, to wit firearms) that purchasers  will never pay for because they will be arrested or killed for using in illegal ways ... and whose use can  kill people and end the ability of credit-card users to pay back their credit-card charges?

I am not much of a friend of banks, but I would be on their side on that matter. I would be willing to have an embargo upon firearms purchases except for legitimate purposes of sport or for the obvious necessity of self-defense (Bear Country, and I do not mean fans of the Chicago Bears; any place with much drug activity).

How do you sort out the mass murderer who kept their mouth shut or lied about their use of their purchase to a store clerk  who passed a legal background check  from the hunter who wants to use an AR-15 or some other assault rifle  for hunting, the law abiding citizen who has a legal right to own an AR-15 to have or possibly  use for self defense or the  gun enthusiasts who think they're cool looking and fun to use target shooting who also passed their legal back ground checks and so forth. Do you want it to be a right to assume that your crazy and have you placed in an insane asylum for the rest of your life based purely on an assumption? Dude, pull your head out of some blue activists ass for once and think for yourself. Dude, you could be looking at the barrel of a sawed off shotgun, pistol or rifle of some burglar, hardened criminal or mass murderer at anytime or anyplace these days. You don't have to be a criminal for a criminal to point a gun at you. Criminals point guns at law abiding citizens and members of law enforcement all the time.

Did I discuss the AR-15 outside of its context as a massacre weapon? One is enough, and if someone is purchasing huge amounts of ammo such should be the warning sign. Someone buying a huge number of guns and a huge amount of ammo is likely not someone likely to pay back a credit card debt for the purchase.

Bankers are already responsible for people using credit cards in attempts to launder money or participate in fraud of any kind. Certain charges are illegal, such as use of credit cards in illicit transactions such as gambling in violation of state laws.

Point a firearm at me,and you have committed assault with a deadly weapon. Point a gun on a cop, and expect to die.

I should be able to live without a firearm if I so choose. I am not stupid. This said, I have a dog, and few burglars want to face my dog's large, dirty teeth or claws that can do great damage first from painful lacerations followed by serious infections. I got hospital treatment for a dog scratch that got infected. The dog was my cocker spaniel. Dogs do not scratch like cats; they scratch worse.

Four Dobermans, Rottweilers, or German leopards are good reasons to back off from a potential burglary. Such dogs might as well be one tiger in an angry confrontation with a burglar. I was only a Census enumerator when facing about 400 ponds of top predator... and I got the primal fear that I could have been meat.  People in crime-ridden South Africa often have firearms, but they have to protect the guns that criminals would love to steal. Dogs are even more aggressive than lions.
No, you haven't really discussed it and don't seem willing or knowledgeable enough or open minded enough to discuss it beyond that particular context or parameter that you have set for yourself.
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RE: Bipartisan Senate group proposes ‘no fly, no buy’ gun measure - by Classic-Xer - 12-30-2018, 07:43 PM

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