08-18-2017, 07:52 AM
(08-17-2017, 10:30 PM)John J. Xenakis Wrote: > And Graham's is not contradictory either. It says that, one way
> or another, war with North Korea is "inevitable," and that an
> effort will be made to confine the war to the Korean peninsula.
> That's a worthwhile objective, but it's totally delusional to
> believe that it could succeed in a generational Crisis era.
>
(08-18-2017, 12:08 AM)Warren Dew Wrote: > The Spanish Civil War was limited to the Iberian peninsula during
> a crisis era. There could be limited wars prior to the big one.
>
The Spanish Civil War (1936-39) led directly to World War II
(1939-45). One could just as easily argue that WW II began in 1936
with the Spanish Civil War, or even in September 1931, when Japan
invaded Manchuria, or even in 1930, when the US passed the
Smoot-Hawley Tariff Bill.
Here are some excerpts from a history of the Spanish Civil War:
history-world Wrote:> The Spanish Civil War(1936-39), was a military revolt
> against the Republican government of Spain, supported by
> conservative elements within the country. When an initial military
> coup failed to win control of the entire country, a bloody civil
> war ensued, fought with great ferocity on both sides. The
> Nationalists, as the rebels were called, received aid from Fascist
> Italy and Nazi Germany. The Republicans received aid from the
> Soviet Union, as well as from International Brigades, a great
> number of volunteers who came from other European countries and
> the United States. ...
> The political and emotional reverberations of the war far
> transcended those of a national conflict, for many in other
> countries saw the Spanish Civil War as part of an international
> conflict between--depending on their point of view--tyranny and
> democracy, or Fascism and freedom, or Communism and
> civilization. For Germany and Italy, Spain was a testing ground
> for new methods of tank and air warfare. For Britain and France,
> the conflict represented a new threat to the international
> equilibrium that they were struggling to preserve, which in 1939
> collapsed into World War II.
> http://history-world.org/spanish_civil_war.htm
In an Awakening era, one war is unlikely to lead to another one,
because the survivors of the previous crisis war make sure that
doesn't happen.
But in a generational Crisis era, each "minor" war triggers the next
one because younger generations are in charge, and they have no clue
what the consequences of their actions are.
So the Spanish Civil War was only briefly confined to the Iberian
Peninsula, since it was a proxy war between Britain and France versus
Germany and Italy, leading directly to WW II.
Similarly, a war on the Korean Peninsula might be confined for a few
weeks or months, but the US would be involved immediately, and China
would certainly get involved, so it would be a proxy war between the
US and China that would directly lead to WW III.
