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(08-23-2017, 10:07 PM)John J. Xenakis Wrote:

(08-23-2017, 09:14 PM)Ragnarök_62 Wrote:

(08-23-2017, 09:11 PM)Warren Dew Wrote:

(08-23-2017, 11:09 AM)Cynic Hero Wrote:

(08-18-2017, 07:52 AM)John J. Xenakis Wrote: So the Spanish Civil War was only briefly confined to the Iberian
Peninsula, since it was a proxy war between Britain and France versus
Germany and Italy, leading directly to WW II.

Similarly, a war on the Korean Peninsula might be confined for a few
weeks or months, but the US would be involved immediately, and China
would certainly get involved, so it would be a proxy war between the
US and China that would directly lead to WW III.

The Spanish Civil war was not a proxy war between Britain and france versus Nazi Germany. It was a Proxy war between Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union. Britain and France both declared neutrality and specifically banned imports of arms from their countries to either side in the war.

North Korea can be made an example of by a preemptive nuclear strike, the particulars of mopping up North Korea can be negotiated with China in regards to the occupation of the Yalu line or possibly a Chinese occupation of North Korea. Making an Example of North Korea also helps the situation with Iran and bolsters deterrence with both Russia and China.

Exactly.  The Chinese could install an actual puppet state in North Korea that would sign on to a nuclear free peninsula, instead of the independent actor that North Korea is now.

? In the meantime Seoul becomes a rubble heap from convential artillery , unless y'all want to nuke the DMZ which wouldn't work either. Last time I checked fallout's a bitch.


Ah yes, take "collateral damage" to a whole new level.

There's also the issue that China WANTS to have a nuclear-armed North
Korea to draw forces away when China attacks the United States.  So
right now China is just playing a game, pretending to care.

OK, so the most optimal strategy is to nuke NK and accept the "collateral damage" to South Korea as something to go into the by any means necessary folder?

N.B. I'm not suggesting that myself holds any opinion.  I am seeking the most optimal strategy to follow. Of course all should know that China in this case wants to nuke us. I don't blindly accept any theory as to what shall transpire henceforth. You have your theory and others have theirs.  I just want the optimal response program for any theory, even S&H.   For example, during the 2008 debacle, banksters should have been jailed , fiscal policy, not monetary policy be employed to increase spending over a certain amount of time on more than "shovel ready" stuff. I'd also raise the marginal rates so the beneficiaries of tinkle down pony up a bit for the mess they themselves as the way up 1%