Generational Dynamics World View

[John J. Xenakis]

(10-28-2017, 02:17 AM)pbrower2a Wrote: > It is ironic that what was once one of the most radical parties of
> its time (the Communist party of China) has become a conservative
> (if undemocratic) party in all but name.

(10-27-2017, 03:13 PM)Warren Dew Wrote: > Government spending as a percentage of GDP is a good measure, with
> some allowance for price controls. Government spending in the US
> is a little under half the GDP, while in China it is a little over
> a quarter, and price controls are largely limited to utilities in
> both countries, so China is pretty clearly more
> capitalist.

You two have gone completely off the rails. Saying that America is
Socialist and China is Capitalist is about as moronic as anything I
can think of.

First off, GDP is not any sort of measure for comparing Socialism to
Capitalism, since the figures are open to lying. To take one obvious
example, Obamacare is an extremely expensive government expense, but
my guess is that China calls all health care "private." Also, the US
defense budget is all attributed to government expenditures, and we
know that China lies about its military spending.

The point is that the International Criminal Nation of China, which is
building illegal massive military bases in the South China Sea and
lies about everything else, is certainly lying about how much of its
GDP is public vs private.

But GDP is irrelevant anyway. Here's one obvious example: China has
clamped down on mobile phone apps in China to prevent any app that
could be used to criticize the government, or could be used to
communicate with the outside world (like VPNs). This is the kind of
control that makes China a Socialist dictatorship. Obviously, we have
no such restrictions in America, and that wouldn't appear in the GDP
at all.

In America, the Justice Dept tried to get Apple to unlock an iphone so
that a criminal investigation could be pursued, and Apple refused.
Can you imagine what would happen to a Chinese exec who similarly
refused? They'd be feeding his body to the fishes. Once again, this
kind of Socialist government control is not reflected in the GDP.

Here's an article about how China is implementing computerized systems
called "City Brain" to keep track of the movements and actions of
every person in the city. The systems combines input from thousands
of cameras, social networks, credit cards, mobile phones, GPS systems,
and any other possible technology, merging all that data into a
database that keeps track of everything that any individual says,
does, goes or buys. It's 1984 on steroids. It's currently
implemented in Hangzhou, and China is planning to implement it across
the country.

China has horrific restrictions on what anyone can say online, and
everything is monitored. The government deletes postings that don't
fit the party line, and anyone who criticizes the government risks
getting thrown into a bottomless pit.

In America, people say that Trump is "Hitler," and they give as
reasons that he didn't remember some soldier's first name, or he
supposedly admires some foreign dictator, or whatever idiotic reason
du jour the liberals come up with. But in America, Trump is
criticized and mocked by everyone, with one idiotic reason after
another, and nothing happens to those people. They can simply go on,
day after day, giving more idiotic reasons. In America, you're free
to criticize your leaders, without getting arrested. So we don't have
any Hitlers in America.

Hitler was responsible for the deaths of tens of millions of people,
and everyone on both the left and the right condemns Hitler and the
neo-nazis in the US and Europe.

But violence and dictatorships on the left? Liberals LOVE those. To
liberals, BLM is great! Who cares if a few white policemen are
murdered? And Antifa is great! Who cares if a few free speech
advocates are bloodied and beaten? Those white policemen and free
speech advocates deserve it, don't they? Liberals LOVE that.

And Stalin and Mao were responsible for hundreds of millions of deaths
-- far more than Hitler. But liberals LOVE Stalin and Mao. "You have
to break a few eggs to make an omelet!" Haha.

Not to mention that liberals LOVED the fascist Benito Mussolini in the
30s. "Hey! He may be a dictator, but he keeps the trains running on
time!!"

So contrast America to the farce at the People's Congress last week,
when Xi Jinping was elected General Secretary of the Communist Party
of China. All 2,400 delegates voted yes. The world watched on
television as they were asked if anyone was opposed, and not a single
person dared to raise his hand. It looked like a pathetic joke. In
America, anyone can vote against Trump, or mock and criticize Trump,
but China's government is so pathetic that not a single person dares
to oppose the leader. The Chinese Communist Party is so fragile that
they're afraid that they'll fall apart if anyone is allowed to
criticize them.

Then Xi introduced the Politburo Standing Committee: Comrade Li
Keqiang, Comrade Li Zhanshu, Comrade Wang Yang, Comrade Wang Huning,
Comrade Zhao Leji, and Comrade Han Zheng.



Watching these seven old men on stage, one can see that this is the
face of evil.

This cabal of Adolf Hitlers is going to bring the worst catastrophe in
world history to China and the rest of the world.

So for you two guys to suggest that China is a modern, free,
capitalist society, while America is some kind of socialist
government-controlled state just shows the lengths of total idiocy to
which today's political discourse has gone.