Generational Dynamics World View

[Cynic Hero '86]

(12-13-2017, 10:49 AM)John J. Xenakis Wrote:

(12-13-2017, 09:28 AM)Cynic Hero Wrote: >   Selfish Boomers refuse to allow a strike on North Korea. The
>   problem here is that the selfish boomers are emotionally attached
>   to the idea of america as the world's policeman. This attachment
>   causes boomers to reject any option that contradicts that
>   role. The US has the military assets to carry out a preemptive
>   strike on North Korea, the boomers just refuse to do so for
>   ideological reasons."

I once wrote that I was seriously beginning to doubt your sanity, in
view of your extreme obsession with "selfish boomers."  I still doubt
your sanity, but I would make one addendum: Today insanity is the
norm.  People realize at some level that a world war is coming, and
they adopt some extreme ideological view to avoid facing what's really
happening.

So anyway, I've addressed this "strike on North Korea" issue several
times.  A few days ago, I quoted an army general about what would
happen:

Quote:>   "This is not a question of a few surgical strikes.  If we wanted
>   to destroy, DESTROY their capability to build a fleet of ICBMs,
>   with mated nuclear warheads, it would require an intensive
>   campaign, primarily, not exclusively from the air.  It would run a
>   minimum of several weeks, possibly months - you can't predict
>   these things once you start pulling triggers.

>   And ultimately the question is the regime in North Korea: can,
>   should it survive?

>   So it's not just shooting a couple of launchers, knocking out some
>   missiles.  You have to go after deep underground bunkers, research
>   facilities.  You have to go after command and control, air
>   defense, intelligence, early warning. And so this is real war.  If
>   we had to address the North Korea problem militarily, it's a
>   war. ...

>   Is it better to put American cities at risk of nuclear catastrophe
>   or at least nuclear blackmail, or to act while we can?"

So as the last sentence suggests, you're almost certainly going to get
your wish.  But while you believe in your troubled, obsessive mind
that a strike on North Korea will be "one and done," the opposite is
true: it will trigger a world war.

North Korea will not stop its program to create an arsenal of
nuclear-tipped ballistic missiles within reach of the entire world,
will sell that technology to rogue states, and will use that
technology to blackmail the US into withdrawing from Japan, South
Korea, and the South China Sea.  Trump will not let that happen, which
means that your obsessive wish will come true, which means that we're
on the path to world war.

As for that quote from the Generational Dynamics forum, you didn't
provide a link and I don't recall that quote, but there have been a
number of millennials posting lately, so it may not have come from a
boomer.  Don't forget: You may be completely, obsessively insane, but
that insanity is the norm today, shared by groups of boomers, xers and
millennials.

Friedrich Nietzsche: "Insanity in individuals is something rare -
but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule."

The point of a war is to get the regime to disarm, not take out the regime unless we have no choice. We deliberately avoided known regime targets (like the emperor and the general staff headquarters) when we fought Japan in WW2 and simply targeted the enemy war machine. The option I point out is the one least likely to lead to all-out world war. The options preferred by the boomers (either doing nothing or wage a campaign on conditions of allowing China to control the end state of North Korea) are much more likely to lead to world war.