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Generational Dynamics World View
(12-13-2017, 10:49 AM)John J. Xenakis Wrote:
(12-13-2017, 09:28 AM)Cynic Hero Wrote: >   Selfish Boomers refuse to allow a strike on North Korea. The
>   problem here is that the selfish boomers are emotionally attached
>   to the idea of america as the world's policeman. This attachment
>   causes boomers to reject any option that contradicts that
>   role. The US has the military assets to carry out a preemptive
>   strike on North Korea, the boomers just refuse to do so for
>   ideological reasons."

I once wrote that I was seriously beginning to doubt your sanity, in
view of your extreme obsession with "selfish boomers."  I still doubt
your sanity, but I would make one addendum: Today insanity is the
norm.  People realize at some level that a world war is coming, and
they adopt some extreme ideological view to avoid facing what's really
happening.

There are rational responses to the dangers of a Crisis Era. Rearmament and shoring up benign alliances are appropriate responses to a foreign Hitler. But against a lunatic fringe in your own country? We need to expose and isolate them.

Quote:So anyway, I've addressed this "strike on North Korea" issue several
times.  A few days ago, I quoted an army general about what would
happen:

Quote:>   "This is not a question of a few surgical strikes.  If we wanted
>   to destroy, DESTROY their capability to build a fleet of ICBMs,
>   with mated nuclear warheads, it would require an intensive
>   campaign, primarily, not exclusively from the air.  It would run a
>   minimum of several weeks, possibly months - you can't predict
>   these things once you start pulling triggers.

>   And ultimately the question is the regime in North Korea: can,
>   should it survive?

>   So it's not just shooting a couple of launchers, knocking out some
>   missiles.  You have to go after deep underground bunkers, research
>   facilities.  You have to go after command and control, air
>   defense, intelligence, early warning. And so this is real war.  If
>   we had to address the North Korea problem militarily, it's a
>   war. ...

>   Is it better to put American cities at risk of nuclear catastrophe
>   or at least nuclear blackmail, or to act while we can?"

So as the last sentence suggests, you're almost certainly going to get
your wish.  But while you believe in your troubled, obsessive mind
that a strike on North Korea will be "one and done," the opposite is
true: it will trigger a world war.

North Korea will not stop its program to create an arsenal of
nuclear-tipped ballistic missiles within reach of the entire world,
will sell that technology to rogue states, and will use that
technology to blackmail the US into withdrawing from Japan, South
Korea, and the South China Sea.  Trump will not let that happen, which
means that your obsessive wish will come true, which means that we're
on the path to world war.

As for that quote from the Generational Dynamics forum, you didn't
provide a link and I don't recall that quote, but there have been a
number of millennials posting lately, so it may not have come from a
boomer.  Don't forget: You may be completely, obsessively insane, but
that insanity is the norm today, shared by groups of boomers, xers and
millennials.

Friedrich Nietzsche: "Insanity in individuals is something rare -
but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule."

You may not have liked Obama, but I could easily see him telling the Chinese, "If the DPRK should fire one missile over Chinese territory, then we will sit by while your armed forces liberate North Korea.  OK, maybe our partners might want to annex Kaesong and its surroundings (Kaesong is a city south of the 38th parallel assigned to the DPRK in the ceasefire agreement).

Sanity must now overpower ideology and even economic interests, however much we as persons cherish an ideology or consumer goodies. In a Crisis Era some things matter far more than getting to do whatever one wants of having a government do whatever one wants. What is the old saying -- close counts only in darts and horseshoes -- and I could modernize that to include nuclear strikes. Your mansion, fine cars, fine wines, horses, antiques, and library will do you no good in the event of a nuclear strike that destroys it all in a wave of thermonuclear heat and blast. If you are close enough to the blast, and so is some loathsome crack whore, then you both get incinerated and equalized.

Yes, I am a Boomer, but economic realities have drummed out any selfishness in me that isn't necessary for survival and sanity. Of course I am not part of the obnoxious elite of Boomers who  insist that the world revolve around their obnoxious egos.


...I must congratulate the people of Alabama on making the rational and decent choice. It is time that we quit accusing people of nastiness and stupidity just because they come from or live in a "red" or "blue" state. We are all in it together.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist  but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.


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RE: Generational Dynamics World View - by radind - 05-14-2016, 03:21 PM
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RE: Generational Dynamics World View - by radind - 08-11-2016, 08:59 PM
RE: Generational Dynamics World View - by SomeGuy - 01-18-2017, 09:23 PM
RE: Generational Dynamics World View - by tg63 - 02-04-2017, 10:08 AM
RE: Generational Dynamics World View - by Galen - 03-13-2017, 03:33 PM
RE: Generational Dynamics World View - by SomeGuy - 03-15-2017, 02:56 PM
RE: Generational Dynamics World View - by SomeGuy - 03-15-2017, 03:13 PM
RE: Generational Dynamics World View - by Galen - 05-30-2017, 01:04 AM
RE: Generational Dynamics World View - by Galen - 07-08-2017, 01:34 AM
RE: Generational Dynamics World View - by tg63 - 08-09-2017, 11:07 AM
RE: Generational Dynamics World View - by tg63 - 08-10-2017, 02:38 PM
RE: Generational Dynamics World View - by Galen - 10-25-2017, 03:07 PM
RE: Generational Dynamics World View - by rds - 10-31-2017, 03:35 PM
RE: Generational Dynamics World View - by rds - 10-31-2017, 06:33 PM
RE: Generational Dynamics World View - by noway2 - 11-20-2017, 04:31 PM
RE: Generational Dynamics World View - by pbrower2a - 12-13-2017, 11:54 AM
RE: Generational Dynamics World View - by Galen - 12-28-2017, 11:00 PM
RE: Generational Dynamics World View - by Galen - 12-31-2017, 11:14 PM
RE: Generational Dynamics World View - by JDG 66 - 06-22-2018, 02:54 PM
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RE: Generational Dynamics World View - by JDG 66 - 07-19-2018, 12:43 PM
RE: Generational Dynamics World View - by JDG 66 - 07-25-2018, 02:18 PM
RE: Generational Dynamics World View - by JDG 66 - 07-11-2018, 01:58 PM
RE: Generational Dynamics World View - by Galen - 08-18-2018, 03:42 AM
RE: Generational Dynamics World View - by Galen - 08-19-2018, 04:39 AM
RE: Generational Dynamics World View - by tg63 - 09-25-2019, 11:12 AM
RE: Generational Dynamics World View - by JDG 66 - 03-09-2020, 02:11 PM
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RE: Generational Dynamics World View - by tg63 - 03-12-2020, 11:11 AM
RE: Generational Dynamics World View - by JDG 66 - 03-16-2020, 03:21 PM
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RE: 58 year rule - by John J. Xenakis - 04-02-2020, 12:25 PM
RE: Generational Dynamics World View - by Isoko - 05-04-2020, 02:51 PM
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RE: Generational Dynamics World View - by CH86 - 01-05-2021, 11:17 PM
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RE: Generational Dynamics World View - by mamabug - 01-15-2021, 03:36 PM
RE: Generational Dynamics World View - by galaxy - 08-19-2021, 03:03 AM
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