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Generational Dynamics World View
(01-07-2018, 11:23 AM)John J. Xenakis Wrote: I can't figure out what you're talking about with the 1890s or the
1920s or the 1930s.  I can't figure out which decade you're saying is
best, and have no clue what you're reasoning is, other than some
remark made by your great-great-aunt, or something like that.  I think
you're trying to take some remark by your uncle's grandmother's third
cousin once removed and use it to prove that socialism is better than
capitalism.

The 1890s and 1920s are possible as expressions of the 'Bad Old Days'. Of course things were great for the elites in the 1890s and 1920s... but as history (and in at least one time, "Madame Guillotine") has shown all too often that the elites are not the only ones who matter.


Quote:No one claims that Capitalism is always 100% successful.  Obviously it
isn't.  I think it could be argued that Capitalism is at least 50%
successful all the time.  But that's better than Socialism, which is
0% successful, and is 100% certain always to fail because of the
reasons I gave in my last message.


50% is successful -- it depends upon what is doing. 50% success in hitting a baseball is far beyond the norm unless one is Giancarlo Stanton facing Little League pitching. Getting out 50% of opposing hitters  means that one typically is grossly inadequate for a pitcher. 

A 50% success in business? The turnover for new restaurants is beyond 50%. in the first year. Professional practices? They aren't particularly capitalist in the sense of turning out inexpensive results.

If capitalism is getting 50% unemployment, then the capitalist order is doing very badly. (Things never got quite that bad in the 1930s).

Quote:I've spent much of my life listening to leftists claim that Cuba was a
Socialist paradise.  I don't see how anyone can say that life in Cuba
was ever better than life in any of the American decades, whether the
1890s, 1920s, 1930s, or other.  People in Cuba were starved, jailed,
tortured and economically deprived.  That's what always happens in
Socialism unless the country abandons Socialism, as Sweden did.

Not this 'leftist'. And where are all those Swedish refugees from socialism? Heck, the USA has lower taxes, which should be quite an incentive for degreed professionals to come here.... but they don;t come from western Europe. Maybe because America is the sort of country in which your kid can easily fail if his parents lack the funds for advanced education.


Quote:It's also worth pointing out that Capitalism is the economic system of
Freedom, while Socialism is the economic system of Dictatorship,
Control, and Oppression.  That's perhaps another reason why Socialism
has a 100% failure rate.


Capitalism taken its most preposterous conclusion, where business is 'free' to do whatever it wishes to helpless workers and customers, is fascism, which itself implies control, tyranny, and oppression. Note well that the capitalist classes have often sought to push demagogues like Mussolini, Hitler, Trujillo, Duvalier,  Fujimori, and Montt to rile up resentments only to sell out the deluded masses. Thus also Trump, although the results could be different. Maybe our civic institutions are stronger.

When Cuba's Socialism collapsed in 2010, I wrote a lengthy article
about it:[/quote]

(snip -- length does not prove relevance)

Quote:Nothing could better describe what Socialism does: "burden companies
and productive organizations with services and inflated budgets that
weigh down the economy, are counterproductive, create bad habits and
distort the behavior of workers."  It could have been written by
Donald Trump if he didn't have dementia, and wasn't a child, and
wasn't mentally unstable, and if he knew how to read and write.

What Marx wrote, Lenin codified, and Castro implemented is manifestly obsolete, relevant only to a country in the early stages of industrialization with a horrid social system and no cause for any hope for change. Capitalists who operate like Marxist stereotypes are also manifestly obsolete.

Quote:And the other thing is that Cuba had to lay off hundreds of thousands
of bureaucrats.  This is exactly the point that I've been making --
Socialism requires a growing supply of other people's money and
regulators.  Even with all the money Cuba was getting, the number of
bureaucrats with inflated budgets that weigh down the economy.

(01-06-2018, 12:35 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: >   He is the most despotic leader that America has known since at
>   least George III, and he makes the corruption of Warren G. Harding
>   and incompetence of Dubya look trivial by contrast.

Hahaha.  You can't really be so stupid that you actually believe this.
But then again, watching CNN these days, we're treated to one pile of
hysterical garbage after another, so you're right squarely in the
middle of the mainstream.

Oh, so one watches GOP Pravda (a/k/a FoX News) as a news source or one is grossly wrong? Watching American politics today is like watching 'failure porn'.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist  but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.


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