03-10-2018, 09:02 PM
(03-10-2018, 08:54 PM)Warren Dew Wrote:(03-10-2018, 02:59 PM)Cynic Hero Wrote: No, you are still an idiot on this issue because it was the Hanoi government, NOT the South Vietnamese populace, who fueled the Sino-Vietnamese war and the Sino-Vietnamese border conflict as well as the Vietnamese invasion of Cambodia. The Current nationalism emanates from Hanoi, not Saigon. The US only has reconciled with Vietnam in the last few years; During the 1980s the Vietnamese were supported by the soviets while the opposition was supported by both China and the US. Regarding the US, American foreign policy since the 1860s has been consistently supporting the so-called "open door" in both China and east Asia in general. America should abandon the open-door policy, all of our Asian wars since at least the Spanish-American war have derived in some extent from maintaining this "open door".
You're looking at governments; Xenakis is looking at peoples. I tend to agree with him that crisis wars are decided by peoples, not by governments.
Cheer up! That means you millies will help drag us into whatever destructive wars we get into.
That still means that the Vietnamese nationalism is driven by memories of their victory in the Vietnam war and later victories against china and is therefore driven by the Vietnamese who were descendants of the NVA/Viet Cong forces from the Vietnam War and who later fought China and the Khmer Rouge in the 1980s. Most of the Vietnamese who were on the American side during the Vietnam War fled to the US after the North Vietnamese victory.