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Generational Dynamics World View
(07-02-2018, 01:57 PM)John J. Xenakis Wrote:
(07-02-2018, 12:26 PM)David Horn Wrote: >   The amount of left-wing violence in the recent past is pretty
>   minimal.  Most of the violence we're most concerned about hasn't
>   been political at all, unless the use of guns in mass murders is,
>   in and of itself, political.  So you're projecting your belief
>   system onto comments you deem violent because they look violent to
>   you and seem directed in your general direction.  Nonsense.  If
>   rhetoric is enough to trigger that accusation, then the right is
>   the dominant political source. Social misfits and cranks are the
>   dominant source overall.  The typical source is criminal activity,
>   and even crime is in decline.

>   Trump, on the other hand, is a problem.  He either believes the
>   nonsense he spews or he's being cynical for personal gain.
>   Nothing good can come from either of the two.  



The left is the ideology of violence.  Last century, Nazis killed tens
of millions of people, but the left -- people in your camp, people you
admire -- killed hundreds of millions of people in the name of
Socialism.  You people on the left are much worse than Nazis, because
you welcome violence and revolution in the name of your ideology, and
you excuse violence because violent revolution is a good cause.  So
Stalin slaugtered and starved tens of millions of people, but it was
all for a good cause.  Mao executed and killed tens of millions of
people, but to you leftists, Mao is a god.  Today the same thing is
happening in Venezuela, but people of your ilk support the principles
Chavez and Maduro because you have no morals and no ethics.  And in my
article today I documented several real examples of violence and
incitement to violence by the left.  You people on the left can't tell
the difference between union thugs beating the crap out of someone
versus writing a tweet.  I know what violence is, because I write
about it every day in my articles.  So don't lecture me on what I
"deem violent," because I know what violence is and you don't.  Tweets
that call CNN fake news are not violence.  What your leftist pals are
doing in Venezuela is violence, and what your leftist pals are inciting
in the US is also violence.  Figure out the difference.

Take out the Marxist-Leninists, who really are as violent, vindictive, bloodthirsty, and militaristic as the fascists, and political violence practically disappears from the Left. Few Americans have any use for Lenin, Stalin, Trotsky, Mao, or even Mugabe or Chavez.

Calling for mass murder, terrorist acts, dissolution of families, or beatings is itself violence, as established in the Nuremberg Tribunal against Julius Streicher, whose offenses were largely vilifying Jews so that people would show them no mercy upon encountering them -- even when the Jews were helpless, as in arriving at a platform at a Nazi concentration camp. Because of the callous treatment of helpless Jews for which Streicher prepared people to send Jews either quick death under Zyklon-B or slower death due to work under starvation rations, Streicher was found guilty of crimes against humanity and sentenced to death by hanging. Likewise, look at the execution of Rwandan advocate of genocide Froduald Karamira (who made such appeals on the radio as "We must cut down the tall trees!"), who fled Rwanda after the collapse of a genocidal regime, found his way to Mumbai -- whence the Indian government (no friend of terrorism, mind you) extradited him to Rwanda, where he was convicted of genocide and executed by firing squad. Neither Streicher nor Karamira was ever shown to have pulled a trigger or organized a deportation.

If you want to claim that someone like Enver Pasha (Armenian genocide in Turkey), Idi A-murderin' or Satan Hussein was left wing -- that is your prerogative. I can't place them so much on a political spectrum as I can place them on a moral continuum, their places corresponding to a very bad place in Dante's Inferno. Mobsters and leaders of international drug cartels may style themselves left-wing -- but their criminality overpowers any political style that they might affect.

Donald Trump has been saying things that, if they are ever to portend any genocidal acts, would subject him to criminal penalties under laws against genocide already in the Criminal Code of the United States. Like Milosevich, he makes sure to keep some personal distance from the cruelties of his regime (and, yes, this is a regime). His behavior is more like a Mob lord, making sure that he is not involved personally in a rub-out. Maybe Al Capone was not at the site of the St. Valentine's Day massacre, but nobody can exculpate him.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist  but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.


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