Generational Dynamics World View

[David Horn]

(07-02-2018, 01:57 PM)John J. Xenakis Wrote:

(07-02-2018, 12:26 PM)David Horn Wrote:

(07-02-2018, 08:19 AM)John J. Xenakis Wrote: You're just making excuses for left-wing violence. And referring to Festinger's experiment, calling Trump a sociopath is the equivalent of predicting the Guardians are coming in flying saucers.  

The amount of left-wing violence in the recent past is pretty minimal.  Most of the violence we're most concerned about hasn't been political at all, unless the use of guns in mass murders is, in and of itself, political.  So you're projecting your belief system onto comments you deem violent because they look violent to you and seem directed in your general direction.  Nonsense.  If rhetoric is enough to trigger that accusation, then the right is the dominant political source. Social misfits and cranks are the dominant source overall.  The typical source is criminal activity, and even crime is in decline.

Trump, on the other hand, is a problem.  He either believes the nonsense he spews or he's being cynical for personal gain. Nothing good can come from either of the two.  

The left is the ideology of violence.  Last century, Nazis killed tens of millions of people, but the left -- people in your camp, people you admire -- killed hundreds of millions of people in the name of Socialism.  You people on the left are much worse than Nazis, because you welcome violence and revolution in the name of your ideology, and you excuse violence because violent revolution is a good cause.  So Stalin slaugtered and starved tens of millions of people, but it was all for a good cause.  Mao executed and killed tens of millions of people, but to you leftists, Mao is a god.  Today the same thing is happening in Venezuela, but people of your ilk support the principles Chavez and Maduro because you have no morals and no ethics.  And in my
article today I documented several real examples of violence and incitement to violence by the left.  You people on the left can't tell the difference between union thugs beating the crap out of someone versus writing a tweet.  I know what violence is, because I write about it every day in my articles.  So don't lecture me on what I "deem violent," because I know what violence is and you don't.  Tweets that call CNN fake news are not violence.  What your leftist pals are doing in Venezuela is violence, and what your leftist pals are inciting in the US is also violence.  Figure out the difference.

Really?  Stalin and Mao are hardly exemplars of the left.  Note: the one person who has posted here in the past who actually admired Stalin (Kinser'79) is now a H-U-G-E Trump fan, as he'll be more than happy to tell you.  Autocrats, and people who admire them, exist along the entire left-right axis.  They worship power, not socialism … or capitalism either.  Likewise, libertarians fall along the entire spectrum too.  Leftwing libertarians are anarchists, and not to my taste either.  So spare us all the examples of "people we admire", when you know perfectly well it's not true.

I can point to nations that have political systems more or less to my liking: the social democracies of Western Europe that Trump is working overtime to destroy.  Why do you think that's the case?  And while you're at it, explain the Trump fascination with Putin in any terms other than one autocrat loving another.