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Generational Dynamics World View
(09-22-2019, 11:59 AM)pbrower2a Wrote: Here is one climate projection for the United States:

[Image: Koppen-Geiger_Map_USA_future.svg]

in contrast to something more familiar (current reality):

[Image: US_50_states_K%C3%B6ppen.svg]

Such is the result of playing "greenhouse-gas roulette" Desert zones expand, appearing in places in which they are not in existence -- yet. Hot deserts expand in Utah, New Mexico, and western Texas  (the Permian Basin). Semi-arid steppe The tropical zone reaches roughly Tampa-St. Pete and Orlando. Real winters disappear in Nebraska, Iowa, and the southern Great Lakes... but drought more than offsets a longer growing season in central Nebraska. 

I concede that southwestern Alaska might be a good grain-growing area -- but soils are now poor and will not improve rapidly.

(09-25-2019, 10:23 AM)John J. Xenakis Wrote: ** 25-Sep-2019 World View: Mao Zedong

(09-19-2019, 07:43 AM)pbrower2a Wrote: >   Every Great Power tries to establish its right to rule in some
>   cultural quality or in the ethnic origin of the people... if it
>   comes to skin color, peoples of East Asian origin can have skin
>   color indistinguishable from that of many Europeans.

It's typical of the left that when you can't deal with facts you
immediately go to Hillary Clinton's "basket of deplorables -- racist,
sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic — you name it."

Racism, sexism, homophobia, xenophobia, and religious bigotry are all deplorable. The problem is that Hillary gave Trump supporters a word about themselves that they thought worthy of pride when in truth it is the opposite. 


Quote:When I was writing the book, someone suggested that I could be
criticized for being racist about criticizing the Chinese.  That's why
I went to a great deal of trouble to point out that the same Chinese
people lived in Taiwan and colonial Hong Kong.  By 2010, Taiwan and
Hong Kong had 10 times the income as China.  It's not the Chinese
people, but the fanatical, catastrophic CCP that infinitely damaged
the wonderful Chinese people living in China.

Criticizing a government is not racist. Note well that China took a huge step forward in economic development when the Chinese Communist Party abandoned Marxist economics -- if not the dictatorship. It is hardly surprising, in view of the disaster that Marxist economic pose in imposing some insane economic ideas (a market does wonders in stopping waste) that capitalist Taiwan and capitalist Hong Kong, neither of which experienced Marxist economic madness, had huge head starts over the PRC. 

And let's not forget Overseas Chinese, model minorities everywhere that they are, including the USA. 

 


Quote:The same is true of the Japanese and South Koreans, as well as
Taiwanese and colonial Hong Kongers.  They've all done very well since
WW II, while the mainland Chinese have faced abuse, jailings,
arbitratry arrests, beatings, rapes, enslavements, a one-child policy,
and poverty from the CCP
.
Don;t ask me to defend Marxism-Leninism in any form, including Maoism. 

Quote:[quote pid='46046' dateline='1568897033']
pbrower2a

>   Chinese, Korean, and Japanese culture are easy to appreciate but
>   difficult to crack. Linguistic difficulty? Fundamental differences
>   of cultural foundation? You describe racism in China... and you
>   make it sound much like Japanese racism during World War II. That
>   is not to say that racism does not exist in China, but that it is
>   fairly similar.

The fact that the CCP is planning a war of revenge against Japan and a
war of annexation against Taiwan is difficult to blame on racism,
especially since the Taiwanese are Chinese too.
[/quote]

Not proved. 


Quote:
(09-19-2019, 07:43 AM)pbrower2a Wrote: >   But Mao Zedong was Chinese (which excuses much to many Chinese),
>   and he did drive out the last vestiges of power of colonial
>   adventurers and their exploitation and degradation of Chinese
>   life.

No he didn't do anything of the sort.  It amazes me what the loony
left would say to defend this monster Mao.  I remember in the 1960s
students were walking around with copies of Mao's "little red book" in
their back pockets, and praising Mao as he was implementing the worst
and most disastrous agicultural policy in the history of any country
at any time in the world.


I'm not in the loony left. Mao has a huge and inexcusable body count. Note well that there were plenty in the New left of the 1960's who still believed in Marxism because they thought that capitalists were "pigs" and still believed in the Marxist promise of a more just and equitable society. 

That is over. The real menace is in people who endorse qualities in bad capitalism that suggest a need for drastic reform, if not outright revolution. 

 

Quote:In my book, I quoted Soviet communist theory dating back to the 1920s,
as well as Mao's own writings.  The Great Leap Forward catastrophe was
caused by Mao's fanatical obsession to prove that Marxism, Socialism
and Communism were economically superior to Capitalism.  Instead, what
he did was so disastrous, he ended up completely humiliating himself
and completely proving that Marxism, Socialism and Communism are all
disastrously inferior to capitalism.  However, it was only after Mao
died in 1976 that Deng Xiaoping finally was able to initiate the
"Reform and Opening Up," replacing Marxism, Socialism and Communism
with "Socialism with Chinese Characteristics," which turns out to be
the same as Hitler's National Socialism.

Mao, I believe, had no clue about the harm that he was doing. That goes with the territory of the True Believer. 


Quote:Oh wait!  Now I get your point!  You're right!  Mao did want to
replace the last vestiges of Western colonialism -- democracy, good
governance, concern for human rights, independent judiciary, free
elections, free markets, and so forth --- He replaced those last
vestiges of Western colonialism in China with dictatorship, beatings,
torture, rape, mass slaughter, mass jailings, slave labor, starvation,
and so forth.

Chiang Kai-Shek's regime was no paragon of "democracy, good governance, concern for human rights, independent judiciary, free
elections, free markets, and so forth". Maybe if it had been it might have made Mao irrelevant. Lord Acton's dintum that absolute power corrupts absolutely applies well to Mao Zedong.   



Quote:So you're right!  You've made an amazing point!  Mao replaced the
vestiges of colonialism -- democracy, human rights, free markets --
with the tenets of Socialism -- beatings, torture, rape, starvation.
So Mao DID get rid of the last vestiges of colonialism in China, as
you say.  That was VERY insightful for someone on the loony left to
say.  But aren't you afraid that by saying something like that the
other people on the loony left are going to accuse you of becoming a
traitor and a scumbag collaborator, and of turning into a fascist, a
racist, a misogynist and a white supremacist?  You'd better be
careful.  The loony left is watching you, and they're coming to get
you.

The loonier they are, the more certain is their failure. Don't get me wrong: a commie like Ceausescu can be much like Mussolini in many respects other than the means of demise for both. 

Quote:
(09-19-2019, 07:43 AM)pbrower2a Wrote: >   There are totalitarians in high places in American life, now
>   largely on the Right (Marxism-Leninism is dead, and most left-wing
>   radicals are post-Marxist), and they would love to imitate the
>   dictatorial rule of China, establishing it in America in a
>   controlled and inequitable order that well serves people who might
>   have a different rationale of their culture.

This is laughable, when people on the loony left have such psychotic
hatred of 60 million Trump supporters, who can't tell the difference
between a tweet and an action, and who have adopted Antifa as this
generation's Ku Klux Klan, attacking 60 million Trump supporters.

If one million of those Trump supporters decide that their 2016 votes were catastrophic mistakes, then Trump loses. I'd rather flatter some into recognizing that they need not make the same mistake in 2020.   

You seem like an intelligent and perceptive fellow -- so how can you defend Donald Trump? He is a pathological liar, a sex fiend, and a bad businessman; he holds decades of American political and legal heritage in contempt. Casting off 240 years of history is something one does not do lightly. One needs compelling reason.

The distinction between expressions of hatred and acts of horror against the same people is not enough to have kept Julius Streicher from being hanged and Froduald Karamira (Rwanda) from being shot. The difference is that there is still free expression in America, so his words are not tantamount to command as were those of Streicher or Karamira.   

(09-22-2019, 11:03 AM)pbrower2a Wrote: >   The consequences of such an ecological disaster as global warming
>   would be mass death on scales that would trivialize World War II
>   and the Black Death.

This is completely hallucinatory.  There's no limit to the total
craziness of loony left climate activists.[/quote]

The death could come from wars that global warming makes certain.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist  but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.


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