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Generational Dynamics World View
(10-22-2019, 11:46 AM)John J. Xenakis Wrote: Divisiveness isn't caused by the president.  It's caused by the generational era.

  1. FDR was blamed for perpetuating the Great Depression, and for implementing a bunch of programs that a lot of people hated.  FDR seriously split the country because of his proposal to pack the Supreme Court, something Democrats are talking about again.  Like Trump, FDR was divisive because many people loved him, and many people hated him.

  2. In the current era, Democrats have been extremely divisive.  They hated Bush, and even got a movie made in 2006, Death of a President, that portrayed the assassination of Bush.  Obama's presidency was supposed to heal racism, but instead he used every opportunity he could to stoke racial hatred.  The left constantly threatened the Tea Partiers, calling them teabaggers, and close Obama advisor James Hoffa frequently threatened Tea Partiers with violence.

  3. Democrats have been planning impeachment literally from the moment Trump took office.  They've spent three years humiliating themselves trying to bring about a political lynching of Trump with one phony charge after another.

  4. Democrats are now using a King James/King Charles style Star Chamber.  The Star Chamber was abolished by the bloody English Civil War, but the Democrats are reviving it, to lynch Trump by any means possible.

  5. Talking of divisiveness, as cynical as I am, I was still surprised that Democrats have shown such enormous contempt for blacks having the
    lowest unemployment rate in history.  But actually, if you look at history, it makes a lot of sense.  Democrats in the Civil War wanted blacks to remain in slavery, then they formed the KKK to lynch blacks for over a century, so now they're still contemptuous of blacks getting jobs, since unemployment keeps blacks in slavery, which is where the Democrats have wanted them for 150 years.  It's pretty sickening.

  6. So I know that you have strongly held views, but Trump is not particularly divisive.  It's the Democrats who would say that even the most benign Trump policies are divisive, even something like lowering unemployment rate for blacks.

  7. But the other thing to notice is that this kind of divisiveness goes well beyond America.  In this generational crisis era, xenophobia, nationalism, and tribalism have been growing all over the world, particularly as worldwide economic growth has been slowing.  There are bitterly divisive battles going on in Britain, Israel, Italy, and Hungary in Europe.  There are conflicts today in many places, including Syria-Idlib, Iraq, Afghanistan, Mexico, Somalia, Nigeria, Sudan, South Sudan, Libya, Pakistan, Egypt, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Yemen, Ethiopia, Ukraine.  There are riots in Hong Kong, Lebanon, Chile, Catalonia, and elsewhere.  The Brexit debate is particularly hilarious.

  8. So it isn't Trump that's causing divisiveness.  It's the generational Crisis era that causes economic stagnation, xenophobia, nationalism, and tribalism, and those things cause divisiveness.  This is all part of "The Gathering Storm" that's leading to WW III, with or without Trump.

Answering in order:
  1. Trump and FDR may have the loyalty thing in common, but Trump stopped acting like a President before he even got sworn-in, so let's keep a bit of perspective here.

  2. The GOP has been over-the-top since Gingrich, and things have only gotten worse.  They have actually stolen one election (2000), and corrupted another (2016) and they do so with impunity.  Calling the Obama's hate mongers is about as far off the reservation as you can get.  Sorry, but accepting everyone as equal may deflate your view of being white-and-right, but it's not racism.

  3. Now we're deep in the Kool-Aid.  The evidence from the Mueller Report alone was compelling enough that over 500 prosecutors declared the report an indictment, and half of them are Republicans.  Since then, Trump and his gang of misfits have stopped pretending, and are breaking the law in public.  Hint: that doesn't make it less illegal.

  4. A Star Chamber?  Really?  This is all happening in plain sight, or is your complaint that "due process" is lacking at this point.  Hint: an investigation is not an impeachment, and one held in the open soils the evidence being collected.  That's why grand juries are totally secret.  This is a lot more open than any grand jury, so you might take a minute, and review the concept of a Star Chamber.

  5. Unemployment in general is down.  Will it stay down once the $1Trillion deficit generating tax cut stops working?  I don't know, but we'll be the worse for it.

  6. If Trump isn't divisive, then I'm actually living on Mars.

  7. On this we actually agree.  Authoritarian-populism is rampant, and the case is pretty easy to determine: massive and persistent inequality.  The world's Billionaires either have to give-up some of their mostly illicit gains, or the war you see coming will be an anarchistic melee.

  8. AGW will have more to say than anything, but inequality has to decline or the chaos will be bad -- really bad.  No WW-III though.
Intelligence is not knowledge and knowledge is not wisdom, but they all play well together.
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RE: Generational Dynamics World View - by radind - 05-14-2016, 03:21 PM
RE: Generational Dynamics World View - by radind - 05-23-2016, 10:31 PM
RE: Generational Dynamics World View - by radind - 08-11-2016, 08:59 PM
RE: Generational Dynamics World View - by SomeGuy - 01-18-2017, 09:23 PM
RE: Generational Dynamics World View - by tg63 - 02-04-2017, 10:08 AM
RE: Generational Dynamics World View - by Galen - 03-13-2017, 03:33 PM
RE: Generational Dynamics World View - by SomeGuy - 03-15-2017, 02:56 PM
RE: Generational Dynamics World View - by SomeGuy - 03-15-2017, 03:13 PM
RE: Generational Dynamics World View - by Galen - 05-30-2017, 01:04 AM
RE: Generational Dynamics World View - by Galen - 07-08-2017, 01:34 AM
RE: Generational Dynamics World View - by tg63 - 08-09-2017, 11:07 AM
RE: Generational Dynamics World View - by tg63 - 08-10-2017, 02:38 PM
RE: Generational Dynamics World View - by Galen - 10-25-2017, 03:07 PM
RE: Generational Dynamics World View - by rds - 10-31-2017, 03:35 PM
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RE: Generational Dynamics World View - by Galen - 12-28-2017, 11:00 PM
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RE: Generational Dynamics World View - by JDG 66 - 06-22-2018, 02:54 PM
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RE: Generational Dynamics World View - by JDG 66 - 07-11-2018, 01:58 PM
RE: Generational Dynamics World View - by Galen - 08-18-2018, 03:42 AM
RE: Generational Dynamics World View - by Galen - 08-19-2018, 04:39 AM
RE: Generational Dynamics World View - by David Horn - 10-22-2019, 03:59 PM
RE: Generational Dynamics World View - by tg63 - 09-25-2019, 11:12 AM
RE: Generational Dynamics World View - by JDG 66 - 03-09-2020, 02:11 PM
RE: Generational Dynamics World View - by Camz - 03-10-2020, 10:10 AM
RE: Generational Dynamics World View - by tg63 - 03-12-2020, 11:11 AM
RE: Generational Dynamics World View - by JDG 66 - 03-16-2020, 03:21 PM
RE: 58 year rule - by Tim Randal Walker - 04-01-2020, 11:17 AM
RE: 58 year rule - by John J. Xenakis - 04-02-2020, 12:25 PM
RE: Generational Dynamics World View - by Isoko - 05-04-2020, 02:51 PM
RE: Generational Dynamics World View - by tg63 - 01-04-2021, 12:13 PM
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