08-10-2016, 07:41 AM
(This post was last modified: 08-10-2016, 08:30 AM by Cynic Hero '86.)
(08-09-2016, 11:30 PM)X_4AD_84 Wrote: These SCO goons are hoping Trump gets in there. It's looking less and less likely. For all her faults HRC is not going to be kind to Moscow and Beijing. They may decide the do unilateral strikes or if not that extreme, at least additional incursions in their near abroad, prior to the election, especially if they realize their Manchurian Candidate is not working out as planned.
If Russia and China Really wanted war, why would they entertain the idea of a Trump Presidency in the first place? They simply would not mention the election if that was the case. Yet Both Chinese and Russian news organs and propaganda organs are very much interested in the current elections here. I don't see how you can say that trump serves Russian interests in Particular. I don't see how a nuclear-armed Germany or a Nuclear-armed Turkey serves the interest of Russia; trump has suggested these ideas. Same thing in Asia, How does a Nuclear-armed Japan Benefit China (Trump has said that Japan in particular should arm itself with nuclear missiles)? However trump has advocated the reorientation of the US military toward building a fortress America. Both Russia and China may support Trump Because under his Administration we would be internally Focused. Thus Russia (and China) may like having more ability to act militarily in their near abroads if trump is elected. However if they really wanted a WW3 those countries would be supporting Hillary Because Hillary would support the hollowing out of the military while further embracing The UN and NATO thus guaranteeing that the US would be sucked into the war first via Russia and China provoking a "Danzig" type pretext for war (analogous to how Hitler wanted all of Poland not just Danzig and the surrounding land route).
Thus I put forth the case that by either clandestinely or overtly supporting trump, Russia and China do not want a larger WW3 because a TRUMP-led America could not be enticed into taking such bait because of the fortress-america policy that Trump has advocated since long before he ran for president, being implemented after he takes office. Since a Trump Presidency eliminates the most likely pretexts for war that either China or Russia could use immediately prior to launching a larger war if they wanted to: The fact that both China and Russia are clandestinely supporting trump indicates the DO NOT want war (at least in the short term: i.e before 2020). You seem to think that in the halls of Russian and Chinese strategic preparations, the near-abroads are the pretexts while the US is the prize. I disagree the respective Near-Abroads seem to be the prize in Russian and Chinese strategic planning. Obviously they don't want us to intervene when they do decide to "reclaim" those regions.
