01-15-2020, 06:43 AM
(01-14-2020, 08:16 PM)Ghost Wrote:(01-14-2020, 07:09 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:(01-14-2020, 06:50 PM)Ghost Wrote:(01-14-2020, 06:40 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:(01-14-2020, 06:32 PM)Ghost Wrote: I think that "activists" make sense as a subgeneration, ranging from 2000-2003 (or late 1999-mid 2003 if you go by graduating years), because the Parkland activists (David Hogg, Kyle Kashuv, etc), Greta Thunberg, Nick Sandmann, and CJ Pearson were all born during that four-year timeframe.
I think that adding 1999/late 1998-mid 1999 is kind of a stretch for the "activist" label because while they certainly can't remember 9/11, they weren't at school for the Parkland shooting (I am going to assume that Parkland is probably why Anthony 58 called his definition of the Activist generation "Activists").
I don't disagree with calling early 2000s cohorts, and perhaps 1999-98 cohorts too, as a subgeneration called activists. In my 1997 book I called them "flame throwers" and said they would be effective reformers and propagandists. I see them as the last subgeneration of millennials and I called them Generation Y-c. They appear to me as later incarnations, so to speak, of the best and brightest that surrounded JFK.
http://philosopherswheel.com/generations.htm
I probably wouldn't add 1998 and even 1999 to the list because not only were those born in 1998 and 1999 out of high school when the Parkland shooting happened, but they were also already college upperclassmen when the September 2019 climate strikes took place. I also have a feeling that most of those who participated in the September 2019 climate strikes were the same age as those who were in high school for the Parkland shooting, or in other words those born from 2000 to 2003.
Yes, I saw that. I think some of the Parkland activists were born in 1999, though. In my book I even extended them back to 1996, but those were less typical than those born after 1998. But accounts may differ on exact dates.
If your "Millennial Third Block" were in two halves, do you think it will look like this?
Political Escalation Subgeneration (born 1996-1999 or Late 1995-Mid 1999/HS Classes of 2014-2017): All at high school during the time when political tensions escalated with the Crimean Annexation and the Isla Vista shooting. A lot of stereotypical young far right and far left people probably fall under this category. Peter Cvjetanovic, James Alex Fields, "Lauren Rose"?, Patrick Crusius, Nick Fuentes, Logan Huysman, Shelby Shoup, and John Timothy Earnest were all born during this four-year time frame. When media outlets talk about late Millennials or Generation Z being socially very left wing/very right wing, they're probably only basing their opinion on this subgeneration. Quintessential birthyear is probably 1998.
Activist Subgeneration (born 2000-2003 or Late 1999-Mid 2003/HS Classes of 2018-2021): All at high school during the Parkland shooting and its aftermath and probably were the stereotypical attendees of the September 2019 Climate Strikes. David Hogg, Jazz Jennings, Cameron Kasky, Sarah Chadwick, Kyle Kashuv, Billie Eilish, Nick Sandmann, CJ Pearson, and Greta Thunberg, all of whom are activists, were born during this four-year time frame. Quintessential birthyear is probably 2001.
More significantly, five adult generations or parts thereof. The divide between the Millennial and Homeland generations is still murky, but so it was between the GI and Silent generations.
Who knows? The youngest kids today (now in early infancy) might grow up to be Idealists (God forbid, Boomers in style, at least among the dominant ones), especially if the current Crisis resolves quickly and decisively.
There was a time not so long ago when there were five active adult generations (when the GI Generation was hanging on) about fifteen years ago.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.